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Contents 1 Next meeting 1.1 Suggestions 2 Agenda 2.1 Comments 2.1.1 11 2.1.2 12 2.1.3 13 2.1.4 14 2.1.5 15 2.1.6 16 2.1.7 17 2.1.8 18 2.1.9 19 2.1.10 20 2.1.11 21 2.1.12 22 2.1.13 24 2.1.14 26 2.1.15 30 2.1.16 31 2.1.17 33 2.1.18 34 2.1.19 36 2.1.20 38 2.1.21 40 2.1.22 43 2.1.23 44 2.1.24 45 2.1.25 52 2.1.26 53 2.1.27 64 2.2 65 2.3 General comments 3 Attendance 3.1 Users who will most likely be able to attend 3.2 Users who will not be able to attend 3.3 Comments 3.4 Users who attended

Next meetingEdit

The IRC meeting will be on Saturday July 17th 2010. The time is 11:00 AM UTC. The next meeting will cover Agenda 2, currently the only agenda available.

SuggestionsEdit

Please review the agenda and make your own timing estimates. It should be quicker than previous meetings as many users will have already attended a meeting before. You don't have to attend the whole meeting, and likewise you can arrive late if necessary. We would like as many people as possible to attend. It is strongly recommended that a time suitable for Hunterj is selected as he will most likely run the meeting, the meeting will only take place if at least one administrator and three participitants in total can be present. Please give your times in UTC, and mention a date.

• We should start the suggestions now. We're obviously not going to make it at the next week, because of the vast delays, but I'm thinking Friday or Saturday, late UTC. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 21:33, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
• Most likely free. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 06:20, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
• How about a meeting in early July. Hopefully we can send out the templates to users and get a decent time suggestion from them then. // Nifky° 07:39, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
• Probably late June / early July, but if it goes to days 25-27 June, I can't attend it at all. --Tiku-Orava 17:42, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
• Around July 17 would be good for me, I should return to the wiki around then. I can make pretty much any time. If Tigernose could keep me updated with the IRC meeting on PSN, so that I don't miss it, it'd be appreciated. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 11:48, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
• I might not be able to, I only have access to the computer i'm on, and it's a shared computer, and who i'm sharing it with is usually on a lot, so I don't really have a good time. But I'll see what I can do. Ninja Ratchet^{The Center for Advanced Stealthy Lombaxes} 22:54, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
• Then we could try July 17, 1pm UTC or earlier. Let's see if that time suits people. // Nifky° 04:25, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
• "Zzzzzzzzzz" That's me at that time. 11:00pm GMT +10 is when I am either asleep or going to sleep. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 02:23, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
• I can do 1pm UTC --Jxtreme 02:46, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
• I maybe can't access to computer on that day (still a week to it so I'm not exactly sure), so no meetings for me. --Tiku-Orava 07:20, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
• Could we do noon (midday) instead of 1pm? I have more of a chance of fully attending at noon. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 18:40, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
• I'm free then at noon UTC. I'll see getting it earlier so we can get Haydos to join before he sleeps... Nifky° 02:40, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't be on any later than 2pm on that day for the afternoon, so early as possible is the best for me. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 13:53, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

• I might not be able to attend, I'm at my Dad's this weekend, who's determined to get me off the computer/games consoles whenever I'm round his. If I do get on a computer it'll be on an old computer that's slow, annoying and probably won't be able to support the IRC at good speed. Unless I can borrow his laptop for an hour or so. But count me as OK, it just depends The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 16:00, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
• I think we should have an Agenda 3 because we now have more topics than the original, and Agenda 3 should come shortly after Agenda 2 so we don't get overloaded with topics. Also, I probably will only be able to come for about 30 minutes at the start, which is a disappointment. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 23:54, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

AgendaEdit

Feel free to add topics here. These topics are clarifications and will only be discussed in the second IRC meeting.

1. Manga canon - Ratchet & Clank Manga, where does it fit in with the storyline, I'm assuming it's canon as I don't think it contradicts with anything. It's publication date would possibly be useful. In reference to this section. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:12, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
2. Forum:Images with unknown source or license -- _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
3. Forum:Sonic Eruptor _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
4. Forum:Images _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
5. Forum:Mentioned only template _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
6. Forum:Mentioned only template _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
7. Forum:Speedrun _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
8. Forum:Space exploration _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
9. Forum:Shortcut Templates _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
10. YouTube videos as sources - one YouTube video used as a source for Space Exploration has been removed due to copyright violation or something. The problem is we don't know which video that was so we can't replace the source. Also the only way to check videos still exist is to check each link individually. I think we should not allow YouTube videos to be sources except from when they are from official users like InsomniacGames or Sony. Existing videos should be replaced to articles containing the video on gaming sites or videos on gaming sites. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 11:54, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
11. Intergalactic Crime Fighting 101 - should this be considered canon? Video:Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time - Super Villain Trailer. It's obviously a promo video but it's set in an in-universe style? Maybe we should make an article about it, stick a template at the top saying it may not be part of the storyline and then include the promo info in the trivia section. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:06, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
12. Skill points - Ratchet: Deadlocked skill point locations, I think it should be just Ratchet: Deadlocked skill points personally, they're not items to collect they are 'skills' to complete. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 18:15, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
13. Trophy List - This page list the trophies in ACiT. Cool, eh? We need to use this is some way. Should we make articles on all of the trophies? Where should we list them? What can we do with them? This would have been great in the ACiT meeting... TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 16:51, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
14. Image policy - Currently, our policy gives uploaders 24 hours to provide a source and/or license for any image they upload without one before it can be deleted. I'd like the make this 24 hours warning optional. It's in bold, red lettering to provide a source on the upload page and I don't see why we should have to wait 24 hours to delete an image. The user can always re-upload it. I do think users should be notified if their image is deleted and why though. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 10:48, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
15. Zoni Homeworld - People seem to be ignoring me on this and whenever I change it someone reverts it, but it seems extremely unlikely, even in the R&C universe, that a facility (Great Clock) could be the birthplace of an entire species, especially a species which is said to have built said facility. Also, the Great Clock being the Zoni's homeworld is speculation, yet it is considered canon on this wiki, it's misinformation, yet whenever I change it, it gets changed back. Drophyd167b 13:43, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
16. Dating System - Perhaps we could come up with some sort of non-canon dating system to help with the wiki. Drophyd167b 13:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
17. Sigmund/Sigma-0426A - Shouldn't he be called his real name? (Drophyd167b, having trouble signing in) 86.30.35.190 12:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
18. Ratchet - As we don't know his real name, but know that Ratchet isn't his real name, a template needs to go in the article to say that the title of the article isn't his real name, problem is I don't know what exactly to do, as it's not really a nickname/callsign/alias, so what sort of template would go up and does it need one? (Drophyd167b, having trouble signing in) 86.30.35.190 12:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
19. Challenge Mode - Can it be considered canon? I mean Challenge Mode is a gameplay mode, much like the multiplayer modes in UYA/DL, they're in the game but they aren't really canon, when, say, in-universe Ratchet beat Nefarious and the Biobliterator, he didn't really go back in time slightly more powerful, he went on and eventually became Captain of the Starship Phoenix. The same goes for armour and other stuff that is only available in challenge mode, they can't actually be canon, can they? Drophyd167b 15:22, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
20. Biography sections - Compare the Ratchet article to the Nefarious article, in the Ratchet article the biography sections are labelled under the name of the game that that part of his life appeared in, whereas the Neffy article has it based on in-universe events, the Ratchet article needs to be like the Neffy article in that respect, as do all articles like the Ratchet article. Drophyd167b 22:02, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
21. RYNO IV Extreme - I added the article there but I've later started thinking. Why would it rename the weapon. What if I mis read the name. So is it simply RYNO 4-Ever? Could someone check this? HiQu^{Talk to me!} 20:17, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
22. Cheats - Do you think it should be deleted or sorted. Do we even need the article? HiQu^{Talk to me!} 13:16, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
23. Batalians - Commando and Deserter are both native to planet Batalia. We should find a name for the species. HiQu^{Talk to me!} 14:54, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
24. Helga's true species - There seems to an edit war about whether Helga is a Cyborg or a Robot. Can we clarify what species she is? Haydos271^{Have a chat! Wiki Games!} 21:54, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
25. Time Rift - We need to make an article about this and summarise into a informative and logical article, using the information in A Crack in Time. Remember this event links up the whole of the Zonis, Lombaxes, Fongoids, Nefarious and Clank. Even though we only see it briefly, we could take a screenshot of it as well as give in the huge amount of background information. But how do we start on it? TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 11:56, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
26. Music scores. Real-world articles? - As Tiku-Orava is currently creating articles for music scores in the Ratchet & Clank games, should they be classed as Real-world articles? Because they seem to be non-canon, should they classed as Real-world articles? HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 09:44, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
27. 3 revert rule - useful when there's a conflict of interest in an article and two parties or more are continuously reverting/undoing each other. I've witnessed a lot of this when I wasn't really active on wiki. // Nifky° 08:31, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
28. Music scores - As you may know, certain users have been creating articles for the music scores in the games. We need to decide on whether we should keep these and if so, how to organise them, as they're all over the place. Please note, a lot of effort has been put into making these articles. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 13:30, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
29. Humans or humans - Since non-human races name's are capitalised, would it be plausible to capitalise every mention of Humans? It already has been done on Wookiepedia, the Star Wars wiki. Also, it might be an idea to capitalise the names of non-human earth animals too. Grind3r 10:47, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
30. Reporting problems with pages - this tool seems to be empty when it does have some use e.g. Creating paint jobs, but not knowing what it looks like. Reporting a problem is like a notice board for users, so if they are bored on the wiki, they can try and fix problems. Should this tool be used more, or should it be not used and forgotten? HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 03:38, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
31. User templates - I have seen that when mentioning a list of users, the editor must use [[User:Haydos271|Haydos271]] over and over again, which leads me to the idea of having a template, like {{userpage|Haydos271}}, so that a user can type in the user's name without repeating. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 04:07, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
32. Voting tallies - I was just thinking if we should have the vote difference next to the name of the subject we're voting on. This means if 3 support and 1 against, the vote difference would be +2. That would be indiciated as in this example: ==Subject 1 (+2)== --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 14:57, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
33. Quality Images - I think that we should get more quality pictures on the wiki. I know that the base text is much more important but good pictures will always make a big wall of text much easier to read. They don't need to be HD images or anything like that but for example some enemies' images are so poor quality that you even cannot recognize anything from them. At least the worse images should be improved. Someone with good recording software (taking screenshots from TV screen, NOT with a camera) should take this job. --Tiku-Orava 20:45, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
34. Tachyon's status - a user named mateo22 has been having an edit war with me over Tachyon's status. He keeps wrighting tachyon's status as Deceased meanwhile we don't know if he died or not, he was just sucked into a black hole and since he has teleportation powers most likely survived but hasn't had a real apperence since so I really think his status should be unknown. Neffy545 00:25, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
35. Space pirates title - The Space Pirate page should be titled space pirate and mentioned as such in all the articles talking about them, because there is no official source that I recall using the name as a proper noun. Pirate has never been a proper noun, and in all of the scenes with subtitles where pirate or space pirate has been said that I recall, the term was not a proper noun. Perhaps this mistake was made somewhere in a subtitled scene I'm overlooking, or maybe in the strategy guide, but either way both those places have been known to issue errors from time to time and I see no reason to believe space pirates or pirates is a proper noun in-universe. --Mateo22 ^Contact 02:31, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
36. Nefarious to Dr. Nefarious - PacBoyCraZ is proposing a move for Nefarious to Dr. Nefarious. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 11:00, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
37. Trio of Zoni - There is no official group of three particular Zoni. Those that appear aiding Clank and trying to show him his destiny are just three random Zoni that serve as the species' introduction, and it's not even the same three beings each time, as there are times when we see more than just three at once shown in both TOD gameplay and the QFB opening panels. Heirgo, the "Trio of Zoni" page needs to be deleted. --Mateo22 ^Contact 00:15, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
38. Planet Transcripts - Should we have level transcripts for every planet? I don't mean walkthroughs, they are different things. These would show everything happening on these missions and all character lines. Only setback would be the open-ended mission style that makes the placing of the transcripts little difficult (but would be fixed if we decide the order, would it be the same as in the planet mission list or the main mission first). --Tiku-Orava 16:12, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
39. The Futuro theme that Jxtreme made, I can't see that on my PC. I'm guessing it wasn't up yet so I think we best discuss this in the next iRC meeting. PacBoyCraZ ^{My talk page} 22:05, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
40. Move the page Nefarious to Dr. Nefarious. PacBoyCraZ ^{My talk page} 22:05, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
41. Klunk's status - What are we going to say Klunk's true fate is? His eyes blinked and glew at the end of SAC, but ACIT Galactic Trivia said that he was dead and buried by Nefarious, the Tombli Outpost almost being named in his memory. Did Insomniac make an error, since SAC was made by another company, or did they retcon that ending? If the story canon is unchanged, did Ratchet lose possession of the vaccum and it was recovered by the doctor somehow? No idea, but it's something I'd like resolved ASAP. --Mateo22 ^Contact 22:20, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
42. Commander Argos' full name - Regrettably (and I could be wrong here), there aren't any in-game subtitles that show how his first name is spelled, but it sounds to me like he said "Commander Lornock Argos." --Mateo22 ^Contact 01:58, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
43. Zephyr's Mother - In TOD Zephyr claims that his mother was a Lombax which would mean, since he's a Robot, a Lombax created him. He sounded like he was telling the truth, and i'm starting to belive he was. The only way we could find the answer to this question is if we email Insomniac, which they, knowing them, probably won't answer. Anyway i'll see if i can find any more info on this. Neffy545 08:38, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
44. Please merge Bogia 4 and Trachea 5. --Tiku-Orava 21:32, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
45. Wiki writing style - Is the guideline to write in present tense or past tense when talking about species, planets or locations? I mean if they still exist they really should be written in present tense, not like in Drek's planet what was destroyed or some specie that has died completely. When talking about location/specie history (or when talking about their appearance in a specific game) the verbs should be in past tense. --Tiku-Orava 14:01, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
46. Pirates - I always thought that we should consider the Robotic Pirate Ghosts and space pirates to be of the same faction. To start, space pirates are also called robot pirates, and other simplistic variation names, so they aren't really an exclusive lot. I personally think that the ghosts (already very comparable with the undead pirates due to the ability to throw their skulls and cause damage and having supernatural smoke coming off them) and Captain Blackstar were once the leading men in Polaris pirates, before some mutiny occured (already alluded to in the reason Blackstar's armor was made, said in TOD). To pay tribute to their fallen captain, the space pirates later made the memorial radio tower on Ardolis for him (I really have to doubt that a completely different group of pirates just decided to randomly make a memorial to a pirate of a stranger faction). Unbeknownst to them, Blackstar had another trick up his sleeve, much the same as Darkwater later had when he took on the role of captain after Julius MacGuffin passed away; he and his loyal subordinates had a curse to bring them back to life, and the one ship of pirates decided to continue its reign of terror in Solana until eliminated by Qwark. This would all make sense to me, and it is implied in-game, despite not having explict confirmation that I'm correct. It's truly something I'd like discussed. --Mateo22 ^Contact 00:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
47. Drek's Status - I have had enough with Speculation, he is dead. He was killed when was launched into his Blarg Planet and then blown to peaces by the Deplanetizer. Alot of fans think Drek could have teleported off the planet, if he survived the impact, but this is Speculation and Drek has not teleported once in the game, and even if Drek survived, wouldn't he have came back in the next game, it's been nine games already and nothing implies or hints he survived. Neffy545 18:28, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
48. Slag on a Stick deletion - This is a redundant article that should be deleted. It isn't a device or separate item. It's just Slag himself in a new form with a nickname from Pete. Some people are inaccurately led to believe it isn't the regular character because he doesn't do a lot of speaking in Morrow Caverns, thinking his personality is only temporarily reactivated when needed to solve puzzles, and then his outbursts about Darkwater or the Pythor were added in for simple comic relief and story development. This is wrong. He is merely keeping mostly quiet to not draw attention from Ratchet until he is safely in his new body. He is completely there in this form, and is not some object. This is driven home even further when he is placed back in this form and fully shows his awareness and such at the end of QFB. The article showing his new form is completely unecessary, as it's a duplicate of what belongs on Slag's article. --Mateo22 ^Contact 23:59, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
49. Big Al's true species - In Deadlocked, Ratchet called Big Al a Frak monkey, at first i thought this was just some dort of insult they use in the Ratchet & Clank universe but in TOD Space Pirates can be heard saying "i've been watching Big Al the Frak monkey's show Big Al's Bot Wars all day". does this confirm Big Al is really a Frak monkey? Neffy545 06:31, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
50. Merging operations and their missions - In operation articles like Operation: ISLAND STRIKE we really should merge the missions there because instead of seven million stubs we could have few good articles. --Tiku-Orava 12:19, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
51. Drek's Flagship's Bridge - Having found the time to go back and play the first game again (and since nobody responded on the talk page), I'm going to point out here what I noticed about Drek's flagship. His command bridge on the flagship is completely different when comparing its appearence in cutscenes to when Ratchet and Clank infiltrate it. In fact, the room seen in cutscenes bears the designs of the Missile Cruiser hallways and not those of the corridors in the flagship at all. Why would the cutscenes say that Drek was holding meetings and broadcasts from aboard his flagship when clearly gameplay suggests that room in the scenes was more like the Missile Cruiser's observation deck? I think these conflicting appearences should be addressed with an answer. Also, can we get a screenshot of the flagship from the outside when Ratchet is flying around the fleet for an infobox image? Thanks, whoever can help. --Mateo22 ^Contact 19:21, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
52. Recreations of planet maps - I've got and idea of recreating planet maps from different R&C series games (with photoshop, paint.net or any image editing software) like this (this image isn't in final form). These would be included in the individual planet's articles. --Tiku-Orava 17:28, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
53. Character Heights - I think some characters who don't have listed heights (such as Big Al, Skid, etc.) should have listed heights. If you are going to give characters who appeared once like Luna, Fizzwidget, Angela, and Azimuth listed heights in the infobox, why not characters who appeared in two or three games.—Unsigned comment at {{{2}}} by 71.181.237.223 (talk • contribs).
54. Rename weapon usage articles - I think that the weapon usage articles should be renamed to weapon guides. (<weapon>/Guide) The articles tell you more than just how to use a weapon but what mods to put on it, how to upgrade it fast and so on. There are few of these articles, so it wouldn't be hard. --Jxtreme 16:38, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
55. Walkthrough overview section - See User:Jxtreme/Walkthrough Overview for an example. I think that we should add these sections to walkthrough articles. They'd give a snapshot of what's on the planet you've landed on. Also, some planet articles have these sections and they have more to do with gameplay that the actual planet. (If anyone else goes to Cobalia, they won't suddenly be able to purchase Plasma Beasts.) Moving them to walkthough articles makes more sense. --Jxtreme 16:38, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
56. Walkthrough creation user projects - Walkthrough articles need major help. We don't have a complete walkthrough for any game, and many fo the ones we do have are a short paragraph describing the first few thing you do on a planet, or just plain terribly written. Fixing this will take effort from many people, so I think a user project for each game walkthrough should be made. --Jxtreme 16:38, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
57. Yurik - Some people seem to think that that is not Yurik ten years later from the Battle. It is Yurik, the reason why he doesn't remember them is because he was really young. This needs to be changed in the Yurik article. Neffy545 19:47, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
58. Deadlocked articles user project - As proposed by Hunterj, Deadlocked is the only main game that has poor quality articles related to it, with only one article (Ace Hardlight) having the FA status. Therefore, we think that Deadlocked articles should all be put under an improvement drive via a user project. Furthermore, we have an FA que drought and we need more Featured articles! --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 14:54, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
59. Sidebar - This was discussed in the previous IRC meeting, but simply put on hold, and we need to finalise it now. A new sidebar is needed for visitors, so it can be user-friendly since it's the main source of navigation on this website. There is a forum, here to discuss and submit proposals. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 14:54, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
60. Image Links on main page - Again, this was another item discussed in the previous IRC meeting but put on hold. A vote now needs to be held to decide which image navigation system should be implemented onto the main page, as seen here. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 14:54, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
61. User-made crosshairs and images - As you may know, some of our users have been replicating images from the games in editing softwares from scratch, as they are difficult to get from the game itself. Most of these have been crosshairs, but should they be kept and put in articles or not? --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 15:58, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
62. Names - particularly enemy names - a user recently asked Nifky where some of the more obscure names come from (e.g. ones that are seemingly not mentioned in the game) I believe the names come from the strategy guides and/or info from Insomniac (interviews etc) when not mentioned in-game, but to be honest I don't have a clue where a lot of names come from; it is entirely possible I've missed them in-game though. It is definitely worth checking who added the names not mentioned in-game and where they got the name from though - at very least to add a source. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 13:26, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
63. Heroes on the Move - how much coverage do we give? I've got my opinion but we need to make a decision really - particularly concerning how much is canon, and how much we cover other characters like Bentley and Jak. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 16:16, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
64. British/American-English? - apparenetly there is no guideline at the moment, this needs to be addressed. While the majority of users use American-English, a good few pages were made using British-English. No guidelines means it contrasts and looks tacky, so we should make it a rule that only one form of grammar is used. As much as I'd rather use British-English, the R&C series is an American one, and as such, I feel the wiki should be written in American-English, and I expect most users will agree, but we should vote on it anyway The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 16:32, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
65. Missions - we should have articles for each mission. For example on Oozla the missions are to Explore the swamp ruins and Find the storage entrance. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 15:42, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
66. Ratchet & Clank comic series - A comic series has been announced to be a canonical instalment in the Ratchet & Clank series. It has its own article already, Ratchet & Clank comic series. However, we need to decide how it will be integrated into articles at the moment, if we should italicise it in articles and etc. Sources and more info about the comic series will be pasted into IRC. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 10:53, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
67. Website articles - A web archive site has been found and can be used to find official websites about Ratchet & Clank that have been taken down. We need to decide how we will use it to update website articles. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 11:06, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

If you want to talk about an agenda topic add a new section below with it's digit, however it is best to save things for the meeting if possible. If you are not going to be able to make the meeting, feel free to give your input and opinions here, but you cannot vote on any topics requiring a vote unless you attend.

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• Hm... I'm on the fence with this. It seems like a Holo-vision show, and probably something that would be watched in the Ratchet universes, but then again: all it is - is just a basis for a new trailer. I wouldn't make it have its own article as it practically is a trailer in itself, but I would reference it in one of the articles. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 19:26, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

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Yes, but you can say the same about the other skill points in other games when it isn't a location. Then again, you are correct but I just think it would look uneven in a list. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 20:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

• I meant the name of the page, and all other skill point locations pages. I think their names should be changed from skill point locations to skill points. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 21:03, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, I know that, I was just saying that having one skill point page having a different name from the others looks uneven. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 21:09, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

• I didn't explain it very well, I meant we should move all of them in the same style. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 21:16, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

• Ah okay. In that case, I agree. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 17:26, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

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I think this should be struck from the agenda, we have an article about trophies and we should have individual articles for each trophy, with tips on how to get some of them on separate walkthrough pages when and if appropriate. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 16:21, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

• Articles already made, struck from agenda. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 16:23, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

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• Hunterj meant to say that the 24 hour warning should be deleted, not optional out of the policy. This means administators can delete any image at any time, provided that they provide a notification and reason. But before that happens, they have a warning to provide a source or licence first without any deadlines. // Nifky° 13:07, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

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I doubt the Zoni homeworld was the Great Clock, because they existed before it was made (hence they made the Clock). The Zoni homeworld is speculation and should be kept unknown for the moment. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 18:28, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

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I don't get this. Dating for what? TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 18:28, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

• A dating system for the games, as in an un-official timeline, sorta like the Star Wars ABY/BBY timeline, although that is official, it would need to be classed as non-canon, but it could help the wiki.(Or not, but it seems like an idea that could work) Drophyd167b 15:37, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

• Oh okay. I was actually thinking of something similar, but it's non-canon and it might lead to visitors believing it's true. Too risky and innacurate, but we could try something less non-canon - if you know what I mean. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 16:56, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

• Not really, but then again that's what the meetings are for. Drophyd167b 18:03, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I've decided to take it away, it would require far too much guesswork to create a significant Year 0, the end of the Great War would be a good one, but we're not even sure when that was, after ToD it seemed that it was hundreds of years before the games, but Azimuth's flashback scene in ACiT seems to suggest that he was alive in the Great War, and seeing as we don't know how long Lombax lifespans are/Azimuth's age, the idea was destined for chaos. (Drophyd167b, having trouble signing in) 86.30.35.190 12:09, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

According to Jak X, Ratchet is somewhere around 20, which means that the Great War is at least 20 years before ACiT. That's my two cents though :p TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 20:12, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

• But was Ratchet born soon after the war? Or was he born hundreds of years after? It would take too much guesswork and it wouldn't be credible, even though it would be unofficial. Drophyd167b 15:33, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

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• Because Sigmund isn't so major, we could change the article's name - yes, but keep Sigmund bolded. Sigmund actually calls himself by his real name, but Clank doesn't. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 15:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I've struck it off, it doesn't really need discussing, I'll change it myself soon Drophyd167b 13:42, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

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• It doesn't need one in my opinion. I'm working on the principal that no one wants to rename the article Clank, even though we know his real name... _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 21:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
• We don't need a template to do that, it serves no purpose. It already says in the text. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 15:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll strike it off Drophyd167b 19:39, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

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• I'm going to move this to a talk page, then if there's a problem add it to a Future IRC meeting. It hasn't really been discussed at all, so it isn't needed here at the moment. Which talk page should I move it to? Drophyd167b 11:34, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

If it's not discussed yet, you can add your comment underneath to discuss it. It doesn't need to be moved, and is equally as important to the other topics on the agenda. // Nifky° 04:45, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Just to point out, so people don't get confused (whenever I highlight something that is or isn't canon, people always seem to come to this conclusion), I'm not saying it should be removed from the wiki, but should not be considered a canon event. In the same way as how we don't treat A Crack in Time as a canon object The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 08:37, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

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• I'm kind of leaning towards disagreeing with this, making it with game name sections is probably easier to navigate about, because the R&C series is so linear but vast. Forum:Biography is colliding with this though, it's also on the agenda. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 15:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, didn't realise this, I'll strike it off. Drophyd167b 13:19, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

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'tis the right name The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 15:58, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

What's the right name? TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 21:00, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

RYNO IV Extreme... The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 15:39, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

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Don't we already have a List of Cheat Codes article for the cheat codes for the first game? Not only is that article poorly written, half of the cheats aren't actually cheats and are just skill points (for which we already have articles for), and the stuff that are cheats already have an article for it. Just delete it now? Anyone else apart from HiQu agree? TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 21:00, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I was prompted to put up the deletion banner 'cos it was so poorly written. But after HiQu's move, I think that we should keep it as long as there are some vast improvements. I'll help, but I know sod all about most cheats... The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 15:51, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

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• No we can't, she's a robot via all sources of the game. Speculation and theories don't really mix with a wiki. From all we know, she's a robot, we can't add onto that at all. TIGERNOSE ^{(Headquarters|Products|Apartment)} 11:56, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I can't remember any source identifying her as a robot... The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 15:48, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

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• Of course. Here's an analogy, the Ratchet & Clank games themselves are part of the series, but are real-life things. Or, some popstar releases a song, it's physical and real-life, but they may use it in a film. Should be real life. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 11:19, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

• Ok, should I strike it off? HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 22:55, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

• I think the real question is if we should have music articles or not, that's a more pressing issue. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 21:55, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think we shouldn't. We should list them, but an article for each soundtrack is a little much. There's also the problem that a)these aren't the official names and b)the only known publicly available versions of them are ripped from the game, so we can't be sure of whether or not the available tracks are correct The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 06:34, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

• We could have articles for the soundtracks of each game I guess, but not for each individual pieces of music as they've not been officially named, to my knowledge. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 11:28, March 20, 2010 (UTC)
• OK, we should erase those articles then, as they have no use. Tiku-Orava 18:00, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

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The tool shouldn't me misused, but it has great potential. A great way to boost awareness would be to modify a couple of MediaWiki messages to make it more noticable, and to leave messages everywhere for new users to use this. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 20:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

• Personally I prefer using talk pages. I don't mind users using it however, as I do check the report page regularly. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 14:11, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

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I had a similar idea, but I thought it'd be easier if each user had a template and they could just call it {{Tigernose}}, instead of a parameter which makes it redundant because it's already long. We'd have some naming problems though, definitely.--Tigernose • Chat • Edits 14:35, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

• Why would we need a personal template if we can simply type "~~~" for our signature or "~~~~" for our signature and timestamp?--• Grind3r (Talk:My Directory) • 09:56, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

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I recently got a recording software, and I can produce relatively high quality images of enemies of needed. However, we need to compile a list of bad quality images. I suggets tagging all bad quality images with a "bad quality" template, then the list would be a category. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 10:24, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

• I could make the category now. Would it be "Articles needing better images" or "Images needing improving" ? --Tiku-Orava 11:24, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Low resolution should be a keyword in the category name in my opinion. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 17:07, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

• Category done. It's called Category:Low Resolution and now we just need a small easy-to-use template. --Tiku-Orava 19:19, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

I can try to make one tomorrow. Or you could make one if your capable to and I could just make a few adjustments if needed. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 01:04, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Template done. It's called Template:Low resolution. --Tiku-Orava 12:44, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

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I agree with Missing in Action. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 10:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

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It's been my idea for a long time that we have the Nefarious article moved to Dr. Nefarious. PacBoyCraZ ^{My talk page} 00:14, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Where is the agenda item though? --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 15:42, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't see the level of productivity in renaming Nefarious with Dr. or Doctor in the beginning. It's not his actual name, it's a title, and that is an improper naming style on any good quality wiki. Period. The only reason we referred to him as Dr. Nefarious the most often is for the same reason we called Qwark Captain Qwark the most often: we had not yet known his forename. Now we know Qwark is Copernicus Qwark, but in any case, the title is not proper with no article as an exception, so it should remain Nefarious until we find out his forename. Otherwise, this wiki will lose some of its high quality in my honest opinion. --Mateo22 ^Contact 23:16, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

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• I have made an example of these transcripts, look here: User:Tiku-Orava/Transcriptexample Tell me what you think or tell me about improvements. It is still a beta version so there are few spelling errors. --Tiku-Orava 14:58, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

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• It's only a title, doesn't need to be moved. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 03:36, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

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• He said half-lombax, and must mean that one of his grandparents was a Lombax. However, this might just be a joke. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 09:02, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

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Done. Redirected Trachea 5 to Bogia 4. They're regionally different, so if anybody thinks it should be the other way round, just unstrike the topic from the agenda. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 11:50, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

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I get your idea, and I agree, but for consistency's sake we should just have them all past tense. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 15:16, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

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That is a great idea. However, it would take an effort from a lot of people. This would make showing the locations of gold bolts and such very simple and easy. I doubt we'll get one for every planet, but any at all would be a great addition for the wiki. --Jxtreme 23:39, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

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Because the characters that have listed heights had their height released to the public by Insomniac Games. We would insert the heights for other characters as well, but only if they were available. We have no clue how tall Big Al is. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 19:34, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

But keep in mind you can compare a character with an unknown height (such as the ones I mentioned earlier (I forgot to sign my input)) to a character with a known height and use a tape measure to find out how tall that character is compared to someone the same height as a character that you know the height of that you can see next to each other. But I also know that's tough because I tried that with Skid McMarx but I gave up because it was late and I was tired. Awesome2 03:35, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying we should do any character height calculating or such, but for example, almost every height (weapons, vehicles, ships and so on...) in Halo fanbase and Halopedia are calculated by the height of Master Chief, which is slightly below 7 feet (6.83 correctly by bungie, but length of the ingame model is 7,04 ft) and by that one known height with complex calculating you can achieve the heights of different objects (like for example, the POA ship is 1.17 km long, which is clear proof that the system works). Again, I'm not saying that we should use the same system, but it is for example that you don't have to have every length and height told by the developers. --Tiku-Orava 18:18, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

In that case, it's a good idea. I can provide screenshots for measuring as I have a capture card. Also, some people could maybe fetch the character files one way or the other. And we could also ask Insomniac Games. --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 15:11, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

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• Struck from the Agenda as decided in a previous meeting. For whatever reason it was not added to the Manual of Style at the time - I've just corrected that. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 17:14, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

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• We already have the walkthroughs for the levels, and these walkthroughs encompass everything we need to know about the missions. A mission article that is mostly a walkthrough would be spam, and a mission article without the walkthrough would be another stub to go with the few hundred already on here. • Grind3r (Talk:My Directory) • 03:13, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, about a third of the articles here are the size that these mission articles would be. • Grind3r (Talk:My Directory) • 03:24, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
• The articles would be about the mission itself. It's in the game so in my opinion it deserves coverage. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 10:28, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

General commentsEdit

• For the forum items it's mostly clarification. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 19:55, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

AttendanceEdit

The below section should only be used when a date and time has been decided. Feel free to turn up at the meeting without signing below if you would like, this is just to give us an indication of numbers.

Users who will most likely be able to attendEdit

1. Nifky° 15:00, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
2. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 17:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
3. For the first hour and a half. HaYdOs271^{Chat to me! ???} 11:49, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
4. --Tiku-Orava 11:03, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
5. Thanks for that Nifky! I can finally attend most of it. Also, glad to see Tiku joining us as well! --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 16:02, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
6. Probably can. --Jxtreme 20:00, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Users who will not be able to attendEdit

CommentsEdit

• I just checked the converter and that would be 1pm in my time, and I'm afraid I probably won't be able to attend it, or at least the last half of it. This confirmation was a little short notice I suppose, so could we move it back an hour maybe? I'm pretty sure I heard Nifky saying the earlier the better for users in America and Australia, so can we do it an hour earlier? --Tigernose • Chat • Edits 16:15, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

• An hour earlier would work better for me, but I think it's finalised now. We have a lot to go through, mostly confirmation again... _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 17:05, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
• Even with the earlier time? _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 09:54, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

• Now made it one hour earlier, sorry about that. I've edited each user talk page to fix the template. Nifky° 06:31, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks. _Hunterj ^{Hunterj's Resort} 09:54, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

• Probably can't attend, not exactly sure yet. --Tiku-Orava 17:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Users who attendedEdit

• Drophyd167b
• Haydos271
• Goldbolt
• Hunterj
• HiQu
• Nifky
• Technobliterator
• Tiku-Orava
• Tigernose