This is the transcript for the IRC meeting on April 18 2009. A summary of the events is also available. Please note that some topics on the agenda may have been missed due to them being struck off of the agenda and resolved before the meeting.

�03[10:01] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 1: Sub-sections�'
[10:01] <+Tigernose> Where is Kurtskywalker
[10:01] <@Nifky> late or something.
[10:01] <@Nifky> it's early for him.
[10:01] <+Tigernose> Ok
[10:02] <+Tigernose> right, Sub-sections
�01[10:02] <@Hunterj> All the planets have a section about the enemies on there. I was thinking we could add a sub-section to that: Native Enemies and Invader Enemies. It technically means, the native enemies are the enemies who are native to the planet and the invaders are enemies who have immigrated or invaded the planet. If not that, maybe a little note next to the link "(Native)" or "(Inavder)". I'm not sure about the name for the invaders though, hope you guys find a more suitable name. -igernose
�01[10:02] <@Hunterj> *Tigernose
[10:02] <+Tigernose> So...
[10:02] <+Tigernose> Good idea?
[10:02] <@Nifky> I'm more with the natives bit though.
�01[10:02] <@Hunterj> Yes.
�01[10:02] <@Hunterj> Off-worlders?
[10:02] <@Nifky> Invaders are, yeah..
[10:03] <+Tigernose> Ok
[10:03] <+HK22> Ok
�01[10:03] <@Hunterj> Splitting up lists of enmies into smaller lists sounds fine,.
[10:03] <+Tigernose> I suppose
[10:03] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[10:03] <@Hunterj> Not sure about the titles.
[10:03] <+HK22> yeah
[10:03] <+Tigernose> Not every immigrant is an invader, but not every invader is neccessarily an immigrant
[10:03] <@Nifky> hmm.
�01[10:03] <@Hunterj> I was just suggesting off-worlders btw.
[10:03] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:03] <@Nifky> for non-native?
[10:03] <+Tigernose> THat's why I said "find a more suitable name"
[10:03] <@Nifky> natives*
[10:03] <@Nifky> of*
�01[10:03] <@Hunterj> Sounds good to me
[10:04] <+HK22> Ok
[10:04] <@Nifky> sry about my typos.
[10:04] <+Tigernose> Natives & Non-Natives
[10:04] <+Tigernose> Right?
[10:04] <@HiQu> !agenda
[10:04] <+HunterG-88> The agenda for the IRC meeting can be found here: http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Ratchet_&_Clank_wiki:IRC_meetings#Agenda
[10:04] <@Nifky> yeah, ok.
[10:04] <+Tigernose> Vote, yes?
�06[10:04] * @Nifky votes yes.
�06[10:05] * @HiQu votes yes
�06[10:05] * @Hunterj votes yes.
[10:05] <+HK22> HK22 votes Yes
[10:05] <+Tigernose> (sudden interruption) How do you do that?
[10:05] <@HiQu> type /me votes yes/no to vote.
[10:05] <+Tigernose> ok
�06[10:05] * +Tigernose votes yes
�01[10:05] <@Hunterj> Makes it clearer for the logs.
[10:05] <+Tigernose> Okay, that's cleared
�01[10:06] <@Hunterj> OK, yes then
[10:06] <@HiQu> HK22 cleared please?
[10:06] <+Tigernose> When shall we start with the filtering
[10:06] <+Tigernose> Oh and do we use sub-sections or notes
[10:06] <@Nifky> sub-sections possibly/
[10:06] <@Nifky> ?*
[10:06] <+Tigernose> ok
�01[10:06] <@Hunterj> Sub sections.
�01[10:06] <@Hunterj> Like ==Enemies==
�01[10:06] <@Hunterj> And then ===Sub section 1=
[10:06] <+Tigernose> yes
�01[10:06] <@Hunterj> ==
�01[10:06] <@Hunterj> And so on.
[10:06] <+Tigernose> ok
�03[10:07] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 2: Disambiguations�'
�01[10:07] <@Hunterj> You know about Disambiguations? I think we should have more. It will help navigation. My reason is: there are a lot of articles that are part of a "species" or "group" but we don't have an indivudual article for the "species" or "group". Stuff like "Holo". Everything in the Ratchet world is "Holo", and probably replaces "Tele". We should have an article on Holo to list the objects that are "Holo" and also information about the term "Holo". Along with other things that need a disambig.-Tigernose
�06[10:07] * @HiQu votes yes.
�01[10:07] <@Hunterj> Yes, we do need more of those. HiQu
[10:07] <@HiQu> I think that's a great idea.
�06[10:07] * @Nifky votes yes.
�01[10:07] <@Hunterj> Yeah.
�06[10:07] * @Hunterj votes yes.
[10:07] <+Tigernose> I was thinking about the Holo thing though
�01[10:07] <@Hunterj> More disambiguation and articles that serve a similar function.
�06[10:07] * +Tigernose votes yes, I guess
�01[10:07] <@Hunterj> Like Holo
[10:08] <@HiQu> Holo: Holo-plan Holo-net etc..
[10:08] <@Nifky> HK22?
[10:08] <+Tigernose> Okay, how would we describe holo
[10:08] <@Nifky> HiQu: bascially prefixes
�01[10:08] <@Hunterj> Holo is a term...
�01[10:08] <@Hunterj> etc
[10:08] <+Tigernose> ok fine
�01[10:08] <@Hunterj> Well, four votes is a pass anyway.
[10:08] <@HiQu> HK22?
[10:08] <+HK22> ?
[10:08] <+Tigernose> yay, my thoughts on that item were murky
[10:09] <@HiQu> yes or no?
[10:09] <+HK22> yes
[10:09] <@HiQu> please use /me votes yes.
[10:09] <@HiQu> It cleares the logs.
[10:09] <+HK22> ok
[10:09] <@Nifky> HK22: do /me votes yes.
�01[10:10] <@Hunterj> It just helps me summarize...
[10:10] <+Tigernose> now...
[10:10] <@Nifky> next topic?
�01[10:10] <@Hunterj> nm, in future votes
[10:10] <+Tigernose> ok
�03[10:10] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 3: Struck from the agenda�'
[10:10] <+Tigernose> One second - lag test
[10:10] <+Tigernose> meh
�03[10:10] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 4: New features�'
[10:10] <+Tigernose> 5 second lag
�01[10:11] <@Hunterj> New features, everyone happy with them? - Hunter
�01[10:11] <@Hunterj> *Hunterj
[10:11] <@Nifky> I'm fine with the new features.
�01[10:11] <@Hunterj> http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:New_features_coming_on_Wednesday
[10:11] <+Tigernose> Yep
[10:11] <+HK22> Yeah so I am I
[10:11] <@Nifky> so, HiQu?
�01[10:11] <@Hunterj> No issues there?
[10:11] <@HiQu> fine for me.
�01[10:11] <@Hunterj> great
[10:11] <+Tigernose> yay
[10:11] <@Nifky> ok
�03[10:11] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 5: Welcome message signature�'
[10:11] <+HK22> just fine
[10:12] <@Nifky> fine as it is.
�01[10:12] <@Hunterj> @latest or Username? Currently @latest by default here for details. This mainly affects admins. Hunterj
�01[10:12] <@Hunterj> This is an admin question really
[10:12] <@Nifky> @latest is good.
[10:12] <@HiQu> yes.
[10:12] <+Tigernose> What's "username"
[10:12] <@Nifky> the name of one user only
�01[10:12] <@Hunterj> At the minute the welcome template uses the last admin who edited the site in the signature.
[10:12] <+Tigernose> wow 10 second lag
�01[10:12] <@Hunterj> Username would be one or two users only.
[10:12] <@Nifky> you want to list who sign's the welcome msgs.
[10:12] <+Tigernose> yes, thats @latest
[10:13] <@HiQu> tigernose: you only have 2 sec lag.
[10:13] <+Tigernose> ok im rejoining
[10:13] <@HiQu> I made a ping.
[10:13] <+Tigernose> cool
[10:13] <+HK22> whats a ping?
[10:13] <+Tigernose> but that wasnt 2 seconds
[10:13] <+Tigernose> i have to rejoin
[10:13] <@HiQu> HK22: have you ever played COunter-Strike or Half-Life?
�03[10:13] * +Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has left #R&C
[10:13] <+HK22> NO!
�01[10:13] <@Hunterj> I'll take this out of the transcript...
[10:13] <@HiQu> Ok, then it's hard to explain
�01[10:14] <@Hunterj> Maybe.
�01[10:14] <@Hunterj> Ping tests connection speed, sort of...
�01[10:14] <@Hunterj> I think...
�03[10:14] * Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has joined #R&C
�03[10:14] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Tigernose
[10:14] <@Nifky> Hk22: Pings tell the use who does it about an user's status thingy.
[10:14] <+HK22> this has gone off topic
[10:14] <@Nifky> yeah.
[10:14] <@Nifky> It is hard to explain..
[10:14] <@HiQu> kinda shows users lag.
[10:14] <@Nifky> user*
[10:14] <+Tigernose> Okay,
[10:14] <@Nifky> yes.
�03[10:14] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 6: Trivia�'
[10:15] <@Nifky> Tigernose: try mibbit.
�01[10:15] <@Hunterj> Because the R&C series is full of Trivia, and the wiki is too, maybe we could have a page full of trivia. Other wikis have one: I'll give you a link. Trivia page on RS wiki. Disclaimer: I do not play that game! I hate Runescape. I only am mentioning this wiki because I needed to check up something.  - Tigernose
[10:15] <+Tigernose> lol
�01[10:15] <@Hunterj> http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Trivia
[10:15] <+Tigernose> I really do loathe Runescape
[10:15] <@Nifky> ok, I do think RuneScape is boring..
[10:15] <+HK22> I think we should have a trivia page
�06[10:15] * @Nifky votes yes, but in sections would be great.
[10:15] <+Tigernose> We have a LOT of trivia so that would be nice
�01[10:15] <@Hunterj> I personally don't think we should ahve a trivia page. It encourages speculation.
[10:16] <+Tigernose> Yup, in sections
[10:16] <+Tigernose> good point
�01[10:16] <@Hunterj> btw, I wouldn't vote until discussions over.
[10:16] <+HK22> Yeah and fanon/spam
�06[10:16] * @HiQu votes neutral
�01[10:16] <@Hunterj> It's confusing if anything changes.
[10:16] <@Nifky> Hunterj: depends if it's a debatable subject.
[10:16] <+Tigernose> But all we need to do is to collect trivia from pages already
[10:16] <+Tigernose> No adding
[10:16] <@Nifky> such as the Lombax warrior..
�01[10:16] <@Hunterj> Technically it's all speculation nearly.
�01[10:16] <@Hunterj> Trivia
[10:16] <@Nifky> Tigernose probably if there's unknown ones.
[10:16] <+HK22> HK22 votes no
[10:16] <+Tigernose> You can't add anything onto the Trivia page if it isn't already on a page
�01[10:16] <@Hunterj> You can.
[10:16] <@Nifky> HK22: do '/me votes no'.
[10:17] <+Tigernose> To make it clear
�01[10:17] <@Hunterj> For example:
[10:17] <+Tigernose> "Less fanon"
�06[10:17] * +HK22 votes no
[10:17] <@HiQu> just instead of HK22 type /me
[10:17] <@HiQu> great
[10:17] <+HK22> done!
[10:17] <@Nifky> ...
[10:17] <+Tigernose> huh???
[10:17] <@HiQu> so you don't want a trivia page?
[10:17] <+Tigernose> oh right
[10:17] <+Tigernose> lol
[10:17] <@Nifky> HiQu: HK22 changed his mind.
[10:17] <@HiQu> oh.
[10:18] <@HiQu> i don't really read messages so well :(
[10:18] <@HiQu> anyway 1-1-1
[10:18] <+HK22> I'm lost now
[10:18] <@Nifky> yeah. it just suddenly became confusing..
[10:18] <+Tigernose> Yup
�01[10:18] <@Hunterj> Sorry, this example is not related to the R&C wiki, but this is oneof the Runescape trvia things:His phrase concerning the egg men is a reference to the Beatles song 'I am the Walrus'
[10:18] <@Nifky> ok..
[10:18] <+Tigernose> And your point is?
[10:18] <@Nifky> I think not so off topic trivia could be added.
�01[10:18] <@Hunterj> While it is very likely that is true, as it's not confirmed (AFAIK, I don't pay any attention to it) it may be fals.
�01[10:18] <@Hunterj> *false.
[10:19] <@Nifky> if it's something not-notable, I wouldn'tt bother.
�01[10:19] <@Hunterj> And trivia pages would encourage this.
[10:19] <+Tigernose> I played that game 5 years ago for about a month and I have noticed many culutural references
[10:19] <@Nifky> yes, probably.
[10:19] <+Tigernose> Yes, then I quit
[10:19] <+HK22> yEAH
�01[10:19] <@Hunterj> "The name Lucien is similar to Lucifer." - that's not trivia...
[10:19] <+Tigernose> Worst game ever, by far
�01[10:19] <@Hunterj> I don't want stuff like that on the R&C wiki.
�01[10:19] <@Hunterj> THat's my concern.
�01[10:19] <@Hunterj> Anyway, shall everyone else vote?
[10:19] <+Tigernose> Lucien was a character if I remember
[10:19] <@HiQu> off topic tigernose.
[10:19] <@Nifky> yes.
�06[10:19] * @Hunterj votes no.
[10:19] <+HK22> Yeah its not very trivia-ish
[10:20] <+Tigernose> he was a satanic character
�06[10:20] * @Nifky is more on the no side now.
[10:20] <@HiQu> tigernose, what do you vote?
�06[10:20] * +HK22 votes no
[10:20] <+Tigernose> Well, it is my matter
[10:20] <@HiQu> Tigernose: You're going off topic.
[10:20] <@Nifky> Tigernose: Ok, that's enough off topic ness :)
[10:20] <+Tigernose> But it won't make any difference
�01[10:20] <@Hunterj> So 2 and a half against, one neutral and Tigernose?
[10:20] <+Tigernose> @ Nifky & HiQu: I was emhapsising a point
�06[10:20] * +Tigernose votes yes
[10:20] <@Nifky> Hunterj: I'm more of 75% against :)
[10:20] <+Tigernose> still..
�01[10:20] <@Hunterj> Ok.
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> Even if Nifky is neutral it's two to one.
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> However.
[10:21] <@Nifky> Tigernose: Yeah I know, but just not over too long./
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> Voting doesn't end everything.
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> You can always ask me to open a forum for you some other time, and we can discuss it in greater detail there.
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> Anyway
[10:21] <@HiQu> Maybe, now is not the right time for trivia.
[10:21] <+Tigernose> Soo....
[10:21] <+Tigernose> ok
�03[10:21] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 7: Thai420�'
[10:21] <+Tigernose> Good point
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> maybe we should remove his bureaucratship. He made 16 edits last year in total, and is innactive. I really appreciate him starting this wiki, and I also appreciate his edits. If he ever became active again I don't think any of use would hesitate in giving him bureaucratship again, I just don't think in an inactive user should have bureaucratship just because he started the wiki. I have nothing against Thai420 and feel free to disagree with me completely! If we did remove it I'd try one more attempt to contact him before removal. Hunterj
�01[10:21] <@Hunterj> I reckon, if he doesn't contribute in the first 5 or so months this year, I think we're going to de-crat him. ??ƒ??
[10:21] <@HiQu> this may go personal.
[10:22] <@Nifky> hmm, I haven't seen in at all since I first joined wikia.
[10:22] <@Nifky> him*
�01[10:22] <@Hunterj> We need to becareful as we don't want to offend him.
[10:22] <+Tigernose> I asked before: Is Thai420 active on other wikis
�01[10:22] <@Hunterj> I don't think so.
[10:22] <+HK22> I think we should try to email him or something?
[10:22] <@Nifky> possibly.
�01[10:22] <@Hunterj> Kurtskywalker has tried.
[10:22] <+Tigernose> thats the only way
[10:22] <@Nifky> yes.
[10:22] <+Tigernose> We need to contact him first
[10:22] <+HK22> ok then
�01[10:22] <@Hunterj> I say we leave him one final message on his talk pag.
[10:22] <+Tigernose> Maybe we can find him on Central Wikia
[10:22] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:22] <+Tigernose> No, wait Wikia Search
[10:22] <@Nifky> look for contibs
�01[10:22] <@Hunterj> And hten if we get no response by the end of May, we de-sysop/bureaucrat him.
[10:23] <@Nifky> ok, either way is possible.
[10:23] <+HK22> Yeah he also founded Sly Cooper wiki
[10:23] <@HiQu> agreed.
[10:23] <+Tigernose> Go to Wikia Search and type in Thai420
[10:23] <@Nifky> Hunterj: ok.
[10:23] <@HiQu> an no offence.
[10:23] <@HiQu> Äand
[10:23] <@HiQu> **and
[10:23] <+HK22> maybe contact him there
�01[10:23] <@Hunterj> Well, I'll contact him on his R&C wiki talk apge.
[10:23] <+HK22> ok
[10:23] <@Nifky> k.
�01[10:23] <@Hunterj> Other users can contact him elsewhere if they want.
[10:24] <@HiQu> so everyone agrees that?
�06[10:24] * @Nifky says yes.
[10:24] <+Tigernose> */me says yes
�06[10:24] * +HK22 votes yes
[10:24] <+Tigernose> ah !@?#
�01[10:24] <@Hunterj> The way I look at it, if he's an admin on the R&C wiki then he should answer there, unless he's innactive in which case we remove admin rights.
�06[10:24] * +Tigernose says yes
[10:24] <+Tigernose> Therre we go
[10:24] <@HiQu> Tigernose: remove the * :)
�06[10:24] * @Hunterj votes yes
[10:24] <@Nifky> Tigernose: Please just don't over react :)
[10:24] <+Tigernose> I'm bulging with temper! :D
�06[10:24] * @HiQu votes yes
�06[10:25] * +Tigernose votes yes
[10:25] <@Nifky> Tigernose: I know, but just don't make it public.
�03[10:25] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 8: Struck off of the agenda�'
[10:25] <@Nifky> :)
�03[10:25] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 9: Skidd's Race�'
[10:25] <+Tigernose> Nifky: And that's exactly why I cloaked it with symbols (off-topic, I will stop now)
[10:26] <@Nifky> np.
�01[10:26] <@Hunterj> You know Skidd McMarx? His agent is the same race as him right? Also Shady Salesman Billy may be the same race as him. We do not know the actual name of this race but we could make an article about it, add a conjecture template and wait until some clarification. For one, the aforementioned and Qwark's Bouncer and even the Reptilian Gadgetron vendor tradesman may be of the same race. Also, it seems like they are all based on Rilgar, after all Skidd's a hoverboarder and Qwark's Bouncer is also on Rilgar. We should do at least something about it, and maybe name them "Rilgarian" or something like that. I Hope this is discussed in the IRC meeting.
�01[10:26] <@Hunterj> - Tigernose
�01[10:26] <@Hunterj> If we are going to make articles, we would have to make assumptions based on their look, and 'create' a race for them, as it's not stated anyway. I think the best way to do this is scrutinize all of their pictures and then maybe make a trivia section on them (for now) about their appearance, if they do look similar according to an user who has did 'a spot the difference' thing. About the races, it's going to be conjecture, as your making a race up, so I unfortunately would not really create a race. ??ƒ??
[10:26] <+Tigernose> (continued) hoverboarder and Qwark's Bouncer is also on Rilgar. We should do at least something about it, and maybe name them "Rilgarian" or something like that. I Hope this is discussed in the IRC meeting.
[10:26] <@Nifky> yes, my long comment..
�01[10:26] <@Hunterj> -nifky
[10:26] <+HK22> They look similar
�06[10:26] * @Nifky reckons..
[10:26] <+Tigernose> and my other comment is also important
�01[10:26] <@Hunterj> Ooh, yeah, another thing - 4 Skid like creatures always participated in the Hoverboard Race on Rilgar. However, on Kalebo III the hoverboarders were another species completely. My point is that; not only Skid like creatures were on the hoverboard races in Rilgar unlike it's counterpart Kalebo III; that another 4 "Rilgarians" can be added to my list of similar looking creatures based on Rilgar. YAY! (lol)  - Tigernose
[10:26] <+Tigernose> lol
[10:27] <+Tigernose> Ah there we go
�01[10:27] <@Hunterj> OK, we need articles on all of the individual Hoverboarders. Seriously we do.
[10:27] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:27] <+Tigernose> yes
[10:27] <+HK22> yeah your right
[10:27] <+Tigernose> And about the race?
[10:27] <+Tigernose> As in species not hoverboard race
�01[10:27] <@Hunterj> I'm not sure.
[10:28] <@Nifky> what's the template called again, it start's with 'C'...
�01[10:28] <@Hunterj> Unnamed something species
[10:28] <@Nifky> oh yes. Conjecture.
�01[10:28] <@Hunterj> For the title
[10:28] <+HK22> Conjecture
[10:28] <+Tigernose> Conjecture
�01[10:28] <@Hunterj> And then {{conjecture}}
[10:28] <@HiQu> they might be from  Rilgar and I think they do but we can't know for sure.
[10:28] <@Nifky> thx anyways.
�01[10:28] <@Hunterj> And hte Rilgar thing can go in the trivia
[10:28] <+Tigernose> Wow 8 second lag
[10:28] <+Tigernose> Well, all of them are seen on Rilgar
[10:28] <+Tigernose> Well - most
[10:28] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[10:28] <@Hunterj> Exaclty, most.
[10:28] <@HiQu> Tigernose: Think, don't type :)
[10:28] <+HK22> Yeah
�01[10:28] <@Hunterj> And they may not have been born there.
[10:28] <+Tigernose> 4 hoverboarders, Skidd, Bouncer and Agent
[10:29] <+Tigernose> ah yes
[10:29] <@Nifky> Tigernose: yes.
�01[10:29] <@Hunterj> Unnamed green humanoid or something?
[10:29] <+Tigernose> seeing that 4 hoverboards are on Rilgar not Kalebo then its likely
�01[10:29] <@Hunterj> *Unnames green humanoid species
[10:29] <@HiQu> does the bouncer look like skidd?
�01[10:29] <@Hunterj> Likely - goes in the trivia
[10:29] <+HK22> I have to go now
[10:29] <+Tigernose> ok
[10:29] <+Tigernose> yes
�01[10:29] <@Hunterj> Ok, by HK22.
[10:29] <@Nifky> Unknown would be better..?
�01[10:29] <@Hunterj> Thanks for coming.
[10:29] <@Nifky> bye
[10:29] <@Nifky> per Hunterj.
�01[10:29] <@Hunterj> But there not unknown.
[10:29] <+HK22> bye
[10:29] <+Tigernose> A larger more muscular "Rilgarian" or "unknown guy"
[10:30] <@Nifky> ok, right.
�02[10:30] * +HK22 (n=90836afd@nat-vip.wikia.net) Quit ("CGI:IRC (EOF)"�)
[10:30] <+Tigernose> Bye
�01[10:30] <@Hunterj> We know they're there.
[10:30] <+Tigernose> unamed
�01[10:30] <@Hunterj> Just not whathey're called.
�01[10:30] <@Hunterj> Ok.
[10:30] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Unknown works in terms of species, which you have in the title
[10:30] <+Tigernose> My compter is so darn slow; communicating here is very hard
[10:30] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:31] <@HiQu> note: all of them have green skin and strange "banana" thing with spikes on their head.
�01[10:31] <@Hunterj> So have we decided that Unnamedgreen humanoid species or something like that but maybe more technical is the title?
[10:31] <+Tigernose> The Bouncer is most likely a Skidd-creature though
[10:31] <@Nifky> Ok.
�06[10:31] * @Nifky votes yes.
�01[10:31] <@Hunterj> So we've agreed on the title, now for creating the article.
�06[10:31] * @Hunterj votes yes.
[10:31] <@HiQu> hey, note that those species only appear on rilgar.
�01[10:31] <@Hunterj> With {{conjecture}}sed
[10:31] <@Nifky> need a more better name, choos that one for the time being.
�01[10:31] <@Hunterj> Yes, in the trivia section.
[10:31] <@Nifky> choose*
[10:32] <+Tigernose> We also need to put that in the infoboxes of the corresponding characters as well as making the character
�01[10:32] <@Hunterj> I'll find some technical terms for the species.
[10:32] <@HiQu> Because they only appear on rilgar, I believe that they are native to rilgar.
�01[10:32] <@Hunterj> Like Wookieepedia calls Yoda's the Trdactly species
�01[10:32] <@Hunterj> *tridactyl
�01[10:32] <@Hunterj> or something like that.
�01[10:32] <@Hunterj> HiQu: I agree, but trivia still, as it's not confirmed.
[10:32] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:32] <+Tigernose> Skidd and Agent appear on Aridia as well, but they are all based on Rilgar
[10:32] <@Nifky> Hunterj: ture.
[10:32] <@Nifky> true8
[10:33] <@Nifky> true*
[10:33] <@HiQu> yes, I know but maybe we should add it to the name like unnamed lombax warrior.
�01[10:33] <@Hunterj> Rilgarian can be redirected to this article.
[10:33] <+Tigernose> If Skidd races on Rilgar 
�01[10:33] <@Hunterj> Possibly.
[10:33] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: yes good idea
[10:33] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:33] <+Tigernose> and hoverboarders on rilgar
�01[10:33] <@Hunterj> The exact name can be discussed on the talk page.
�06[10:33] * @HiQu votes yes.
[10:33] <+Tigernose> then techinically they are native to rilgar
�01[10:33] <@Hunterj> OK
�06[10:34] * +Tigernose agrees and votes yes
[10:34] <@HiQu> they are MOST LIKELY native to planet rilgar.
�06[10:34] * @Nifky votes yes.
�01[10:34] <@Hunterj> Ok, so 4 votes for creating the article.
�01[10:34] <@Hunterj> 0 against.
[10:34] <+Tigernose> Yes
[10:34] <@Nifky> HiQu: ok.
[10:34] <+Tigernose> MOST LIKELY
�03[10:34] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 10: Multiplayer wiki�'
�01[10:34] <@Hunterj> do we want a wiki specifically for the multiplayer aspects Ratchet & Clank series? Personally I think the content would fit on this wiki, but I'm not sure what Mobutu4 (his idea) has in mind.
�01[10:34] <@Hunterj> -Hunter
�01[10:34] <@Hunterj> *Hunterj
�01[10:34] <@Hunterj> That seems unneccesary. Only three of the games have multi-player anyway, so all we need to do is add a few more articles about MP rather than make an own wiki! Wikis that are destined to have 20 articles aren't exactly "amazing". TIGERCORP
�01[10:35] <@Hunterj> That's not the point. The multiplayer wiki is also for the clans that are on, game types, and maps. I know you have a knack for disagreeing, Tigernose. Mobutu4(
[10:35] <+Tigernose> brb
[10:35] <@Nifky> k.
�01[10:35] <@Hunterj> Sorry, I didn't realise you meant about the players and the clans. But still I don't think it's a good idea. It is not the sort of thing that gets put in a wiki; in my opinion I think it's more suited to a fan-site after a wiki, after all - wikis are supposed to be educational. TIGERCORP
�01[10:35] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: By no means are all wikis supposed to be educational...
[10:35] <@Nifky> no necessarily ediucational.
[10:35] <@Nifky> not*
[10:35] <+Tigernose> enough with TIGERCORP
[10:35] <@Nifky> for example Darthipedia...
�01[10:35] <@Hunterj> Heh.
�01[10:35] <@Hunterj> Anyway.
[10:36] <+Tigernose> But I mean, they tell you about things 
�01[10:36] <@Hunterj> Personally I think it can go on this wiki.
[10:36] <+Tigernose> Excluding fanon and parody wikis
�01[10:36] <@Hunterj> I see no reason to create a smaller wiki
[10:36] <@Nifky> same here, no offence to Mobutu4 while he reads thi very transcript soon.
[10:36] <+Tigernose> brb
[10:36] <@Nifky> Hunterj: me neither.
�01[10:36] <@Hunterj> I think it's an interesting idea, but there's no need.
[10:36] <@Nifky> besides he's an admin on 2 or 3 already.
�01[10:36] <@Hunterj> especially with CiT having multiplayer, I don't want to looose content!
[10:37] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[10:37] <@Hunterj> So, a vote
�06[10:37] * @Hunterj votes no to creating a multiplayer R&Ci.
�01[10:37] <@Hunterj> *R&C wiki.
�06[10:37] * @Nifky votes for the side that doesn't creat a multiplayer wiki.
[10:37] <@Nifky> ok, I meant voting on the 'no' side.
�06[10:38] * @HiQu votes same as above
�03[10:38] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 11: User page policy�'
�01[10:38] <@Hunterj> User page policy - Ratchet & Clank wiki:User pages is a policy that has been/will be created by me. Do we need a percentage of allowed user page edits before their user page is blocked, like if they're user page edit count exceeds 40% and they've had over 100 edits should it then be protected for a while or should they be warned etc?
�06[10:38] * +Tigernose votes agaisnt creating one
[10:38] <+Tigernose> whoops sorry about the lag
�01[10:38] <@Hunterj> Well, exactly in the policy, we shouldn't overdo it. Plus, spam and advertising shouldn't be allowed on it. - Nifky
�01[10:38] <@Hunterj> np
[10:38] <@Nifky> Hunterj: you already created the policy :)
�01[10:38] <@Hunterj> That vote was not realted to this.
[10:38] <@Nifky> k.
�01[10:39] <@Hunterj> I find it really annoying, when I used to edit on these pear-shaped wikis, I was trying to make them better as they had like 20 admins and only 300 articles, but people became admins due to their edits and automatically someone would be a sysop after a 1000 edits, and most of them would be user edits. I was the only person who had about 80% mainspace there. I have to admit it is annoying, so that's a good idea. Another brilliant aspect of your idea, Hunterj, is that it's limited by percentage not edits, which could be unfair for someone to have had 6000 mainspace edits and around 1000 user edits (and, let's say 700 was the limit). So, yeah, I totally agree. TIGERCORP
[10:39] <@Nifky> I knew, he just had lag.
�01[10:39] <@Hunterj> This would be good, but for people who have their own blog, or give you the latest on their games(glitches, skillpoints,etc.) would not be fair. Mobutu4
[10:39] <+Tigernose> I have logged off msn and took off tabs to reduce lag but i still have to rejoin
[10:39] <@Nifky> I do find it somewhat annoying if a person only joins for updating their user page.
�01[10:39] <@Hunterj> Well, you can get your own free blog for those things, but you don't have to if you have contributed to the wiki a lot anyway. Also, I reckon warned then protected in terms of too much user namespace edits in ratio to the mainspace ones. Nifky
�03[10:39] * +Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has left #R&C
�01[10:40] <@Hunterj> We need to make sure things like this: User:Sonicsponge111/Vid_Comics don't become excessive.
[10:40] <@Nifky> yes.
�01[10:40] <@Hunterj> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/User:Sonicsponge111/Vid_Comics
[10:40] <@Nifky> luckily he's not updating atm
�01[10:40] <@Hunterj> So, what do we do if they go over 40%?
[10:40] <@Nifky> I think he only joined the only for a while,, but wasn't really inclined to the idea.
�03[10:40] * Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has joined #R&C
�03[10:40] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Tigernose
�01[10:40] <@Hunterj> So, what do we do if they go over 40%?
[10:40] <@Nifky> Hunterj: warn them or something?
�01[10:41] <@Hunterj> I think we should warn them at 40%, but without the big red warning template...
[10:41] <@HiQu> or protect the userpage
�01[10:41] <@Hunterj> And at 45% we block there user page.
�01[10:41] <@Hunterj> *protect
[10:41] <@Nifky> warn then protect.
�01[10:41] <@Hunterj> But, this only starts once a user reaches a number of edits
[10:41] <@Nifky> and if they misuse their talk page, same thing happens.
�01[10:41] <@Hunterj> 50, 100?
�01[10:41] <@Hunterj> Yes I guess.
[10:42] <@HiQu> id say 50
[10:42] <@Nifky> percentage and edit count..?
[10:42] <@Nifky> I'd go with the percentage.
�01[10:42] <@Hunterj> Percentage.
[10:42] <@Nifky> edit count is, a bit different.
[10:42] <@Nifky> I have 75 user space already.
�01[10:42] <@Hunterj> But I meant it only starts when you have 50 edits on the R&C wiki.
[10:42] <@HiQu> think if your first edit is userpage edit. that would mean 100%
�01[10:42] <@Hunterj> In tital
[10:42] <@Nifky> wouldn't be fair on edit count.
[10:42] <+Tigernose> where did my post go?
�01[10:42] <@Hunterj> (total
[10:42] <+Tigernose> What the?
[10:42] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:42] <+Tigernose> i typed in something
�01[10:42] <@Hunterj> Tigernose:Weird.
[10:42] <+Tigernose> And it didn't show up!
[10:43] <@Nifky> ok..
[10:43] <@HiQu> wouldn't be fair with percentage
[10:43] <+Tigernose> meh
[10:43] <+Tigernose> I will retype it
�01[10:43] <@Hunterj> I say we have 40% = warning 45% = user page protection until it goes back down to 35% or lower.
[10:43] <+Tigernose> I agree with the protect the userpage idea, however i have not been following fully as I had to rejoin
[10:43] <@Nifky> how about a combination between edit count and percentage/
[10:43] <@HiQu> agreed
[10:43] <+Tigernose> So can someone give me a little summary about what is happening
�06[10:43] * @Nifky agrees.
�06[10:43] * @HiQu agrees
�01[10:44] <@Hunterj> And this only starts when a user has 50 total edits.
�06[10:44] * +Tigernose agrees.
[10:44] <@HiQu> yes
[10:44] <@Nifky> Tigernose: just talking about the current topic, much.
�06[10:44] * @Hunterj agrees
�01[10:44] <@Hunterj> Ok.
[10:44] <+Tigernose> What was the idea
[10:44] <+Tigernose> I get it now though
[10:44] <+Tigernose> Don't worry
�03[10:44] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 12: Copying article content onto user pages�'
[10:44] <+Tigernose> Due to my lag, all my comments appear at the long time
[10:44] <@HiQu> Tigernose: Read the transcript
�01[10:44] <@Hunterj> ok
[10:44] <+Tigernose> Now this I didn't understand
�01[10:44] <@Hunterj> HiQu has an example of this, do we allow this? Hunterj
[10:44] <@Nifky> k.
�01[10:44] <@Hunterj> here is no harm in that. We should allow it. TIGERCORP
�01[10:45] <@Hunterj> It's kinda annoying. Believe me. HiQu
[10:45] <@Nifky> That User:Clank whatever it is page..
�01[10:45] <@Hunterj> It's sort of quite annoying, and quite unnecessary. It's the equilvalent of saying "I like Clank" without the copy & pasting of all that article into the userpage. Seriously - Nifky
[10:45] <@HiQu> see hunterj's archives
[10:45] <+Tigernose> HiQu has an example of this, but he disagrees
�01[10:45] <@Hunterj> Nifky: It's not User:Clank.
[10:45] <+Tigernose> i don't get it
[10:45] <@Nifky> k.
�01[10:45] <@Hunterj> Personally I don't really care as long as they remove the categories.
[10:45] <@Nifky> Hunterj: I meant whatever it is that goes after the Clank bit.
[10:45] <@Nifky> User:Clank was Lethal.
�01[10:45] <@Hunterj> Yes
[10:45] <@Nifky> anyway.
�01[10:46] <@Hunterj> As long as it isn't excessive
[10:46] <@Nifky> yes.
[10:46] <+Tigernose> Guys, I do not understand... :|_
�01[10:46] <@Hunterj> So lets vote on creating a section in the user policy stopping users from copying entire articles or large sections of them onto user pages.
[10:46] <+Tigernose> ooooooh
[10:46] <@Nifky> ok
�01[10:46] <@Hunterj> :)
�06[10:46] * @Nifky votes yes.
�06[10:46] * @Hunterj votes no.
[10:46] <@Nifky> what this is confusing..
[10:47] <@HiQu> lets revote.
�01[10:47] <@Hunterj> Ok
�06[10:47] * +Tigernose cannot decide (it is not something that affects him as far as he knows)
[10:47] <@HiQu> yes for allowing the copying no for not allowing.
[10:47] <@Nifky> >	So lets vote on creating a section in the user policy stopping users from copying entire articles or large sections of them onto user pages. - in regards to that I would allow bits, but not the whole thing
[10:47] <@HiQu> Tigernose: then you can vote for neutral
�06[10:47] * +Tigernose cannot decide (it is not something that affects him as far as he knows)
�01[10:47] <@Hunterj>  yes for allowing the copying no for not allowing.
[10:47] <+Tigernose> whoops
[10:47] <+Tigernose> sorry
[10:48] <@HiQu> np
�06[10:48] * +Tigernose votes neutral
�06[10:48] * @Nifky agrees per my comment.
�01[10:48] <@Hunterj> *sigh*
[10:48] <@HiQu> Nifky, yes of no.
[10:48] <@Nifky> yes.
[10:48] <@HiQu>  yes for allowing the copying no for not allowing.
�01[10:48] <@Hunterj> yes for allowing the copying of articles, no for not allowing.
�06[10:48] * @Nifky votes yes.
�01[10:48] <@Hunterj> Onto user pages...
�01[10:48] <@Hunterj> OK
[10:48] <@Nifky> sry about that.
[10:48] <@HiQu> so you allow.
�01[10:48] <@Hunterj> np
�06[10:48] * @Hunterj votes yes.
�06[10:48] * @HiQu votes no
[10:49] <@HiQu> so do we allow it?
�01[10:49] <@Hunterj> Yes I guess.
[10:49] <@Nifky> 2 to 1..
[10:49] <@HiQu> I'm kinda confused
[10:49] <@Nifky> most likely.
[10:49] <+Tigernose> I understand my signature is a bit misleading, but does everyone know that TIGERCORP is Tigernose?
[10:49] <@Nifky> Tigernose is neutral
[10:49] <@Nifky> yea.
[10:49] <+Tigernose> phew
�01[10:49] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: I think so. But for the transcript I'll change it from now on. Thanks for reminding me.
[10:49] <@HiQu> So I can't remove that page?
�01[10:49] <@Hunterj> Sorry HiQu. I don't see what harm it's causing.
�01[10:49] <@Hunterj> othre than annoying you. :)
[10:50] <@HiQu> The category thing.
[10:50] <@Nifky> meh I don't like that page anyway much..
[10:50] <@HiQu> it categorizes the user page.
�01[10:50] <@Hunterj> Yeah, we can remove categories.
[10:50] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:50] <@Nifky> yes.
�01[10:50] <@Hunterj> That's a navigation thing.
[10:50] <@HiQu> could you do that?
�01[10:50] <@Hunterj> I've already removed the categories of the users who copied articles.
[10:50] <+Tigernose> IS kurtskywalker an admin?
[10:50] <@Nifky> yeas.
�03[10:50] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 13: Layout for walkthroughs�'
[10:50] <@Nifky> yes*
[10:51] <@Nifky> and crat.
�01[10:51] <@Hunterj> Check out my idea for the layout for walkthroughs here. TIGERNOSE
[10:51] <+Tigernose> cool
�01[10:51] <@Hunterj> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank_wiki_talk:Layout_and_style_guide
�01[10:51] <@Hunterj> I think it is fine. - Nifky
�01[10:51] <@Hunterj> Most of it is absolutely great thinking! Nice job, Tigernose! But I'm not so happy with the Gold bolt thing. I think we should discuss about that. HiQu
[10:52] <@HiQu> like the gold bolt would be written in yellow...
[10:52] <@Nifky> ok.
[10:52] <@Nifky> dark yellow then?
�01[10:52] <@Hunterj> I'd like to modify it a little.
[10:52] <@Nifky> I just like black.
�01[10:52] <@Hunterj> I think we should leve color for now.
[10:52] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: You're the boss
[10:52] <@Nifky> k.
[10:53] <+Tigernose> Okay, the colour thing was a bit optimistic
[10:53] <@Nifky> Tigernose: Unanimous voting :)
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> But after modifying that I think it should be put on a sub page of the policy.
[10:53] <+Tigernose> I was in a positive mood when I insereted that
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> lo;
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> *lol
[10:53] <@Nifky> :)
[10:53] <+Tigernose> yes
[10:53] <+Tigernose> a subpage
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> As an example.
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> And I'll create/find examples for all of our other article types...
[10:53] <@Nifky> Tigernose: you're postive most of the time, I think..
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> Good thinking Tigernose.
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> With this whole thing.
�01[10:53] <@Hunterj> All in favor of using Tigernose's changes?
�06[10:54] * @Hunterj votes yes.
�01[10:54] <@Hunterj> HG-88. :)
[10:54] <@Nifky> HiQu: It's his bot.
[10:54] <+Tigernose> A LOT of people search through walkthroughs so it would be good to make them at least a little polished
[10:54] <@Nifky> not Hunterj.
�01[10:54] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: Yes, I have a few ideas for later.
[10:54] <@Nifky> :)
[10:54] <@Nifky> ok,
�06[10:55] * @HiQu votes yes
�01[10:55] <@Hunterj> *for walkthroughs
[10:55] <@Nifky> we need a lot of walkthrough things.
[10:55] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: Sure, whatever you say
�06[10:55] * @Nifky votes yes.
�01[10:55] <@Hunterj> ok
[10:55] <+Tigernose> I'm also for the idea about walkthrough lists "Topic 40"
�01[10:55] <@Hunterj> yeah, later Tigernose...
�01[10:55] <@Hunterj> :)
�03[10:55] * Retrieving #R&C modes...
[10:55] <@Nifky> :)
�03[10:55] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 14: Another Lombax?�'
[10:55] <+Tigernose> Can we go through the rest of the IRc meeting a little faster though
�01[10:55] <@Hunterj>  In this vid at 0:55 there is a person who seems to be a Lombax. This would completely fight against the info on the article Lombax. (Eye color etc.) I think this should at least be discussed. HiQu
�01[10:56] <@Hunterj> Sure.
�01[10:56] <@Hunterj> Is that the Lombax Warrior person?
[10:56] <@Nifky> Tigernose: Since there isn;t many people, that should be a yes.
[10:56] <@HiQu> Hunterj: eys
[10:56] <@Nifky> yes.
[10:56] <@Nifky> I think
�01[10:56] <@Hunterj> Personally I think we leave the Lombax article for now, until we 100% know that that person is a Lombax.
[10:57] <@Nifky> yes.
[10:57] <+Tigernose> Yes
[10:57] <@Nifky> until then..
[10:57] <+Tigernose> We know he's a Lombax, but Insomniac need to confirm it
[10:57] <@HiQu> ok
�01[10:57] <@Hunterj> Ok, no need to vote as there's no specific decision.
�06[10:57] * @Nifky votes for Hunterj's comment.
�01[10:57] <@Hunterj> Yes
[10:57] <@Nifky> k.
�01[10:57] <@Hunterj> Add-one for the signature policy 
�01[10:57] <@Hunterj> *ignore that
�03[10:57] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 15: Add-one for the signature policy�'
�01[10:57] <@Hunterj> I think we should add a rule which says that the signature of a user must clearly have the user's user name with a link to his/her user page on it. I'm not pointing to anyone but some users' signatures have strange names which aren't even their real user names. HiQu
[10:58] <+Tigernose> TIGERCORP = TIGERNOSE...
[10:58] <@Nifky> yes, it's in transcript anyway..
�01[10:58] <@Hunterj> I reckon that we could intergrate HiQu's idea, but maybe with the User's username in the signature linking to their user/talk page (either one, or both). After that link, they can create 2 or 3 more links related to linking to their username without having to type the user's username again so they can type some other random words. (So, e.g. [[User:Randomperson|Randomperson]] [[User talk:Randomperson|:)]]). - nifky
[10:58] <@Nifky> :)
[10:58] <@HiQu> Tigernose, no offense.
�01[10:58] <@Hunterj> UPDATE! - Also I would like to add that the signature should be in one line only. So no enter used, you know. HiQu
�01[10:58] <@Hunterj> It already has to be on one line.
�01[10:58] <@Hunterj> I agree, the exception being people with really long user names.
�01[10:58] <@Hunterj> I mean really long.
[10:59] <@Nifky> yes.
[10:59] <@HiQu> or <br>
[10:59] <@Nifky> such as untitled..
�01[10:59] <@Hunterj> Yeah, no <br>
[10:59] <@HiQu> oh
[10:59] <@Nifky> cuts of the rv summary btw :)
[10:59] <@Nifky> <br> is same as enter.
[10:59] <@HiQu> not exactly
[10:59] <@Nifky> well, sot of.
[11:00] <@HiQu> you need 2 enters for one line on wikia.
[11:00] <@Nifky> sort of*, in a context..
[11:00] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: Yes, the line-break rule is already on the policy
�01[11:00] <@Hunterj> OK.
�01[11:00] <@Hunterj> We can't add the rule about a link.
[11:00] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:00] <@Hunterj> Wikia default sig doesn't have a link I think.
[11:00] <@Nifky> I think it does.
[11:01] <@HiQu> But still it should have the real name
�01[11:01] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[11:01] <@Nifky> yes.
[11:01] <@Nifky> for at least once.
�01[11:01] <@Hunterj> It must have a readable image or text showing there user name.
�01[11:01] <@Hunterj> That sound ok?
[11:01] <@Nifky> ok.
[11:01] <+Tigernose>                                                  There must be a valid link directing it to their username, and an"at least related name for the link"
�06[11:02] * @HiQu vagrees.
[11:02] <@HiQu> *agrees
[11:02] <@HiQu> please take that out from the transcript.
�06[11:02] * @Nifky agrees, still deciding a bit...
�01[11:02] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: is that akready on the policy?
�01[11:03] <@Hunterj> *already
[11:03] <@Nifky> Hunterj: I don't think so.
[11:03] <@HiQu> brb
[11:03] <@Nifky> k.
[11:03] <+Tigernose> I think so, I'm trying to emphasise a point I already heard before, and slightly altered
�01[11:03] <@Hunterj> Ok, well I'll add it if it's not already on the policy.
�01[11:03] <@Hunterj> Ok?
[11:03] <@HiQu> back
[11:03] <@Nifky> ok.
[11:03] <@Nifky> yes.
[11:03] <@Nifky> wb
[11:03] <@HiQu> ty
�06[11:03] * @Hunterj agrees.
�03[11:03] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 16:Forum�'
[11:04] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:04] <@Hunterj> I think we should set up a specific forum for talking about A Crack in Time and where speculation can go that isn't sourced enough for articles. It'll stop the talk page from being clogged up and we can link users who add speculation to the article to it.
�01[11:04] <@Hunterj> -hunterj
�06[11:04] * @Nifky agrees.
�01[11:04] <@Hunterj> Henrik agrees with me.
�06[11:04] * @Hunterj agrees.
[11:05] <@Nifky> Tigernose..?
[11:05] <@Nifky> or HiQu..?
�06[11:05] * @HiQu agreees,.
[11:05] <@Nifky> ok.
�03[11:05] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 17: A Crack in Time articles�'
�06[11:05] * +Tigernose agrees
�01[11:05] <@Hunterj> I think it's fine to make them as long as we have a strong idea on how to title them and that they'll be in the game, as long as everything's sourced and we use the conjecture template. Hunterj
[11:05] <@Nifky> that makes Tigernose's vote somwhat irrelevant...
�01[11:05] <@Hunterj> Yeah.
�01[11:05] <@Hunterj> 3/4 - ?
�01[11:05] <@Hunterj> It's a pass eitehr way.
[11:05] <+Tigernose> pardon?
[11:06] <+Tigernose> it was lag, my bote was meant for the previous topic
[11:06] <@Nifky> Tigernose: 3 agrees means the 4th one doesn't count, much..
�01[11:06] <@Hunterj> Ok
[11:06] <+Tigernose> *vote
�06[11:06] * @Nifky agrees to topic 17.
�01[11:06] <@Hunterj> Henrik agrees.
�06[11:06] * @HiQu agrees.
�06[11:06] * @Hunterj agrees.
[11:06] <+Tigernose> Oh, I thought you were talking about my late comment
�01[11:06] <@Hunterj> lol, no.
[11:06] <@Nifky> no.
[11:06] <@Nifky> :)
�03[11:06] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 18: Struck from the agenda�'
�06[11:07] * +Tigernose strongly agreees
[11:07] <@Nifky> lol.
�03[11:07] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 19: FA/GA userboxes�'
[11:07] <+Tigernose> aaagghhh i hate lag
�01[11:07] <@Hunterj> Sorry about that Tigernose...
�01[11:07] <@Hunterj> Something that Darthipedia has, it's a userbox given to users who have made significant contributions to an article in order to get it to featured or good status. This is a nice thing to have, and could increase the quality of articles we have. Hunterj
�01[11:07] <@Hunterj> -Hunterj
[11:07] <@HiQu> could
�06[11:07] * @Nifky agrees to my comment on that page.
�06[11:07] * +Tigernose agrees about the userbox
�01[11:07] <@Hunterj> Maybe we should have a featured user one as well? Hunterj
�01[11:08] <@Hunterj> So and FA and GA userbox for key contributors.
�06[11:08] * @Hunterj agrees.
�06[11:08] * @Nifky agrees, again.
�01[11:08] <@Hunterj> Waht about one for being the featured user?
�06[11:08] * @Hunterj agrees
�06[11:08] * @HiQu agrees.
�06[11:08] * @HiQu agrees to all.
�03[11:09] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 20: Enemies Category�'
[11:09] <@Nifky> same here.
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> Half way and it's been almost an hour.
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> But it'll speed up now.
[11:09] <@Nifky> is that good progress..?
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> this needs splitting up into smaller, specific categories. We need to discuss who, how and when this'll happen
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> -Hunterj
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> Nifky: considering yes
[11:09] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Enemies
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> There are over 200 articles in the category
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> It needs splitting up.
[11:09] <@Nifky> in games.
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> We don't need to decide who does it.
�01[11:09] <@Hunterj> My later idea will solve that
[11:10] <@Nifky> as in what game it appears in
�01[11:10] <@Hunterj> We could do it like that
[11:10] <@HiQu> maybe not.
�01[11:10] <@Hunterj> Enemies in Ratchet & Clank
�01[11:10] <@Hunterj> etc
[11:10] <@Nifky> ok.
[11:10] <@HiQu> what about races.
[11:10] <+Tigernose> i have fair ideas for the sub-categories
�01[11:10] <@Hunterj> yes.
�01[11:10] <@Hunterj> Tigernose? 
[11:10] <@Nifky> like the walkthroughs
�01[11:10] <@Hunterj> OK, let's hear.
[11:10] <+Tigernose> Actually, yes that's a good idea
[11:10] <@HiQu> and like if they are insects or ice creatures etc.
[11:11] <@Nifky> that's nice.
�01[11:11] <@Hunterj> I preffer HiQu's idea, but the problem is it's open to interpretation
[11:11] <+Tigernose> Seeing that enemies dont appear in later games
[11:11] <+Tigernose> Races is a sub-category of games
�01[11:11] <@Hunterj> hm, waht happens if a race appears in more than one game?
[11:11] <+Tigernose> holy macaroni!  30 saecond lag!!!!!!!!!
[11:11] <@Nifky> less than 20 seconds..
�01[11:11] <@Hunterj> Do we categorise it in both?
[11:11] <@HiQu> TIgernose: please don't tell us about your lags.
[11:12] <@HiQu> it's kinda annoying.
[11:12] <@HiQu> no offense.
[11:12] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Me reckons.
[11:12] <+Tigernose> I wish I could commnicate but I need to rejoin and reduce lag
�01[11:12] <@Hunterj> OK, do tha now then
[11:13] <@Nifky> Tigernose: join and leave when you feel it's necessary.
[11:13] <+Tigernose> You no it's kinda annnoying for me, when I'm try to say something but it appears half a minute later
[11:13] <@HiQu> per nifky
[11:13] <+Tigernose> I need to rejoin
[11:13] <@Nifky> ok.
[11:14] <@HiQu> just rejoin. don't tell us, well notice that.
[11:14] <@HiQu> *we'll
�01[11:14] <@Hunterj> heh
[11:14] <+Tigernose> I can't rejoin my computer is too sllow
�01[11:14] <@Hunterj> So how are we going to do this.
[11:14] <@Nifky> k.
[11:14] <+Tigernose> i wil try
[11:14] <@Nifky> after the IRC meeting>
�03[11:15] * +Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has left #R&C
�01[11:15] <@Hunterj> So how should we do this?
�01[11:15] <@Hunterj> By game and then by race?
�01[11:15] <@Hunterj> Category:Bosses would need splitting up as well
�03[11:15] * Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has joined #R&C
�03[11:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Tigernose
[11:16] <@HiQu>          or only by  race?
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> [11:15] * +Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has left #R&C
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> [11:15] <@Hunterj> So how should we do this?
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> [11:15] <@Hunterj> By game and then by race?
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> [11:15] <@Hunterj> Category:Bosses would need splitting up as well
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> [11:15] * Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has joined #R&C
[11:16] <+Tigernose> Okay this is my view on it
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> Personally I like doing it by game.
�01[11:16] <@Hunterj> So both IMO.
[11:16] <@Nifky> same here.
[11:16] <@Nifky> no offence intended.
[11:16] <+Tigernose> We have games as a sub-category
[11:17] <@HiQu> but if same enemy appears in more than one games.
�01[11:17] <@Hunterj> They go into multiple categories
[11:17] <@Nifky> yes.
[11:17] <+Tigernose> and seeing that planet's enemies are divided up into classes of strength
[11:17] <+Tigernose> Hunterj:yes
�01[11:17] <@Hunterj> It makes sense, but it's to general.
[11:17] <+Tigernose> We could have strength sub-category and race sub-category
[11:18] <+Tigernose> There is usually the small enemy that can be killed with one swing of the wrench, then a medium and then a strong
[11:18] <@HiQu> id say no
�01[11:18] <@Hunterj> I think we should have Categories:  Browse>Characters>Enemies>Enemies by games>Enemies in ratchet & Clank :XXX>Articles
[11:18] <@Nifky> Tigernose: might be a subject or debate.
[11:18] <@Nifky> of*
[11:18] <+Tigernose> On the GC website that was taken off, enemies were categorised into classes of strength
[11:19] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:19] <@Hunterj> I mean we could do it by number of standard wrench swings. But I don't feel like killing every enemy in the game with a standard wrench swing so I can categorise them.
[11:19] <@HiQu> c'mon, just decide.
[11:19] <+Tigernose> In Games category, we could have the Species category and the Strength category
�01[11:19] <@Hunterj>  Browse>Characters>Enemies>Enemies by games>Enemies in ratchet & Clank :XXX>Articles?
[11:19] <@Nifky> Hunterj: I think we should have Categories: Browse>Characters>Enemies>Enemies in ratchet & Clank :XXX>Articles
[11:19] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: enemies are easy to categorise
�01[11:20] <@Hunterj> Lets vote on that idea, if it fais we'll come up with something else.
�01[11:20] <@Hunterj>  Browse>Characters>Enemies>Enemies by games>Enemies in ratchet & Clank :XXX>Articles
[11:20] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: there are usually 3 types of enemies, the weakest usually the smallest
�01[11:20] <@Hunterj> All in favor of using that please agree
[11:20] <@Nifky> there's no need for the 'enemies'in games bit if it's only classed in games.
�01[11:20] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: *usually*
�06[11:20] * @Nifky is in favour.
�01[11:20] <@Hunterj> Nifky: There is... I'll explain why later if you/I remember.
�06[11:20] * @Hunterj agrees.
[11:20] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Nice American spelling nowadays..
[11:20] <+Tigernose> Like for example in Veldin: the toad is the weakest, the robot is medium
[11:20] <@Nifky> k.
[11:21] <@HiQu> i dont really lika that sthrebght idea
�01[11:21] <@Hunterj> I get waht you mean Tigernose, it's just not as accurate as oter methods IMO.
�01[11:21] <@Hunterj> Same here.
[11:21] <+Tigernose> yes
[11:21] <@HiQu> *like, sthrenght
[11:21] <+Tigernose> its a shame that the GC site was taken off though
[11:21] <@HiQu> *strenght
[11:21] <+Tigernose> we could consult that
[11:21] <+Tigernose> they had enemies categorised in weak, medium, large, extra and boss
�01[11:21] <@Hunterj> Anyway, votes please? We're voting on categorising enemies by game and then by race.
[11:21] <@Nifky> k.
[11:21] <+Tigernose> yes
�06[11:22] * @Nifky votes yes
[11:22] <@HiQu> fo what
�01[11:22] <@Hunterj> Me and Nifky agree? Anyonelse?
�06[11:22] * +Tigernose agrees, will contribute further to this idea afterwards though
[11:22] <@HiQu> for what will I agree?
�01[11:22] <@Hunterj> For categorising enemies by game, and then inside that sub categories by race.
[11:22] <@Nifky> yes.
[11:22] <@HiQu> ok
�06[11:22] * @HiQu agreesw
�01[11:22] <@Hunterj> OK
[11:22] <+Tigernose> Guys can we get a move on, because I'm running out of time, and to be honest it is a little too slow
[11:22] <@Nifky> k.
�01[11:22] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[11:22] <@Nifky> next topic..
�03[11:23] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 21: Images�'
�01[11:23] <@Hunterj> they need categorizing. We need to discuss who, how and when this'll happen. - Hunterj
�01[11:23] <@Hunterj> nm, mind my later idea solves this
[11:23] <@Nifky> which is..
�03[11:23] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 22: Categories�'
�01[11:23] <@Hunterj> [11:23] <@Hunterj> they need categorizing. We need to discuss who, how and when this'll happen. - Hunterj
�01[11:23] <@Hunterj> [11:23] <@Hunterj> nm, mind my later idea solves this
�01[11:23] <@Hunterj> Nifky: later on th agenda.
[11:23] <+Tigernose> Yup a Category tree
[11:23] <@Nifky> k.
�03[11:23] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 23: Struck form the agenda�'
[11:24] <+Tigernose> *from not form
�03[11:24] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 24: Excessive pages�'
[11:24] <@HiQu> we already have a category tree.
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> Can we remove pages that describe upgraded, Mega, Giga, Omega, Titan, and all others beside? It creates unnecessary clutter, and all the information could be much better summarized on one page, in my opinion. Mutated 
[11:24] <@HiQu> brb.
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> Possibly, but that will mean a sort-of long page (no offence). ??ƒ??
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> 'm not sure about this. I like having articles on each weapon upgrade and I think there is potentially enough information for each weapon upgrade's own article, however having longer articles could also be a good idea. It'll be interesting to see what happens from the meeting. Hunterj
[11:24] <@Nifky> that's my comment btw.
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[11:24] <@Nifky> the one with the question marks..
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> the font doesn;t show>
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> Anyway.
�01[11:24] <@Hunterj> Personally I think we should leave them like they are.
[11:24] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Character encoding isn't supported.
[11:25] <@Nifky> same.
�01[11:25] <@Hunterj> I like having lots of smaller articles.
�01[11:25] <@Hunterj> And some are pretty long anyway.
[11:25] <+Tigernose> Is this referring to 'e.g Omega Judicator' articles
[11:25] <@Nifky> possibly a link to all different kinds of weapons if we have to.
�01[11:25] <@Hunterj> I guess,
�06[11:25] * @Hunterj votes against merging them together.
�06[11:25] * @Nifky says the same.
[11:26] <+Tigernose> Can I have an answer so I can understand please?
[11:26] <@Nifky> to your statement earlier..
�01[11:26] <@Hunterj> Yes.
�01[11:26] <@Hunterj> Like Omega something.
�01[11:26] <@Hunterj> And Mega something
[11:26] <@Nifky> to this right? [21:25:23]	<Tigernose>	Is this referring to 'e.g Omega Judicator' articles
[11:26] <@Nifky> ok
�01[11:26] <@Hunterj> I don't think we should have articles for Something V4
�01[11:26] <@Hunterj> But the actual major upgrades yes
[11:26] <+Tigernose> I'm confused
�06[11:26] * @HiQu votes against
[11:27] <@Nifky> Hunterj: You are somewhat confusing me with the V4 thing..
[11:27] <+Tigernose> I don't know i fyou're talking about merging all of the individual upgraded weapon articles, or the term for the upgraded weapons
�01[11:27] <@Hunterj> Mutated wanted to merge all of our Omega articles, like Omega Judicator with the article Judicator
[11:27] <@Nifky> yea.
[11:27] <@HiQu> Hunterj: Have you removed Acid Bomb Glove V.2
�01[11:27] <@Hunterj> yes.
[11:27] <+Tigernose> OOOOOOKKKKAYYY
[11:27] <+Tigernose> sorry about that
�01[11:27] <@Hunterj> np, my fault
�01[11:27] <@Hunterj> Anyway, 3 votes against.
�03[11:27] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 25: User image policy�'
[11:27] <@Nifky> k.
�06[11:27] * +Tigernose votes agaisnt
�01[11:27] <@Hunterj> the number of images allowed to be uploaded. Hunterj
[11:28] <@Nifky> Hunterj: I didn't vote against.
[11:28] <+Tigernose> We have already said 6 right?
�01[11:28] <@Hunterj> ***that vote was for the previous topic***
[11:28] <@Nifky> did we?
[11:28] <+Tigernose> yes
�01[11:28] <@Hunterj> No, we didn't agree to how many user images you couldh ave.
[11:28] <@HiQu> I think we discussed that in the first or second IRC meeting.
[11:28] <+Tigernose> in a previoous IRC meeting
[11:28] <@Nifky> about 6 images.
[11:28] <+Tigernose> 6
[11:28] <@HiQu> *Topic 25
[11:28] <+Tigernose> we did
[11:28] <@Nifky> that's what I thought about user images.
�06[11:28] * @Nifky doesn't know.
�01[11:28] <@Hunterj> I checked the policy, nothing there.
�01[11:29] <@Hunterj> Personally I say 5
[11:29] <@Nifky> same.
�06[11:29] * @Nifky says so.
[11:29] <@HiQu> Hunterj see the summary
[11:29] <+Tigernose> So why wasn't it added
[11:29] <+Tigernose> I remember us agreeing about it
�01[11:29] <@Hunterj> I must have missed it.
�01[11:29] <@Hunterj> OK.
[11:29] <@Nifky> forgot probably..
[11:29] <+Tigernose> I also remember supergeeky1 not listening and clogging the transcript
�01[11:29] <@Hunterj> So 6 images for the sole purpose of a user/talk page.
[11:29] <+Tigernose> probably thats why
[11:29] <+Tigernose> yes
[11:29] <@Nifky> k.
[11:29] <@HiQu> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank_wiki:IRC_meetings/Summary_31_January_2009
�03[11:29] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 26: User and user talk page polic�'
�03[11:30] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 26: User and user talk page policy�'
�06[11:30] * +Tigernose says "agreed"
�01[11:30] <@Hunterj> we may already have these but we need to stop people from putting massive (I mean massive) pictures of pigs on their talk pages, so big I can see the pixels from the image. We also may want to stop the sort of content that User:The Toilet Seat has on his user page. (Should be an animated image, if not then look in the page history) Hunterj
[11:30] <@HiQu> It has already decided there
[11:30] <@HiQu> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank_wiki:IRC_meetings/Summary_31_January_2009
[11:30] <@Nifky> Hunterj: yeah, HK22 did resise the image.
[11:30] <@Nifky> resize*
[11:30] <@Nifky> on that guy's talk page.
[11:30] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: It says on the January meeting we did agree, so let's move on
[11:31] <@Nifky> so far that person's just an one-off user.
�01[11:31] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: massive images?
�01[11:31] <@Hunterj> But he played the rules.
[11:31] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: no, sorry lag - previous topic
�01[11:31] <@Hunterj> I couldn't do anything about it technically, thankfully he didn't license them
�01[11:31] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: OK
[11:31] <@Nifky> k.
[11:32] <@Nifky> Hunterj: lol.
�06[11:32] * +Tigernose says that we should have a limit on the size of images
�06[11:32] * @Nifky agrees
[11:32] <+Tigernose> Haven't we also done this in the last meeting though
[11:32] <+Tigernose> about the size of images
�06[11:32] * @HiQu says that this whole thing should not be allowed.
�01[11:32] <@Hunterj> I think we should have 'reasonable image size from an admins perspective' for user pages, and 'small enough to see at least the first message' on talk apges
�01[11:32] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: Not on user/talk apges.
[11:32] <@HiQu> Tigernose: it was sizes in articles
�06[11:32] * +Tigernose agrees totally with Hunterj
�01[11:33] <@Hunterj> and no wider than default page width for both.
�06[11:33] * @Nifky says yes.
[11:33] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: Yes, I was thinking that
�06[11:33] * @Hunterj says yes.
[11:33] <@HiQu> yes
�01[11:33] <@Hunterj> OK.
[11:33] <+Tigernose> I stilll had that in my mind but i wanted to clarify
[11:33] <@Nifky> ok
[11:33] <@HiQu> next topic please
�03[11:33] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 27: Backup dancers�'
�01[11:33] <@Hunterj>  There are two types: Pirates and Courtney Gears'
�01[11:33] <@Hunterj> Again, we can leave this for my later idea.
[11:33] <@Nifky> ok, who was the one commenting to me about it..
[11:34] <+Tigernose> ok
[11:34] <@Nifky> k.
�03[11:34] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 28: Categories (Again)�'
�01[11:34] <@Hunterj> Categories (again) - do we need to add a section of the manual of style to categories? Recently IP's have been creating entire articles of existing content in relevant category namespaces that are red linked. Hunterj
�01[11:34] <@Hunterj> I've changed my mind
�01[11:34] <@Hunterj> I don't think we do.
[11:34] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:34] <@Hunterj> We can just tell the user article content doesn't belong there.
�03[11:35] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 29: Struck from the agenda�'
[11:35] <@HiQu> ok
�06[11:35] * +Tigernose agrees with Hunterj about not needing to do
[11:35] <@Nifky> hmm. topic 30.
�06[11:35] * @Nifky agrees with Tigernose
�03[11:35] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 30: Should {{title}} be not allowed in user and talk pages�'
�01[11:35] <@Hunterj> Some users figure out fake names that aren't their real user names using the template. HiQu
[11:35] <@HiQu> It's kind of a same thing with the signature thing,
�06[11:35] * +Tigernose sasys that the title template should not be allowed
�01[11:36] <@Hunterj> Personally I think there are two rules: 1. It must be clear that the page is a user/ user talk page. And the user's user name must be in the title.
[11:36] <@Nifky> the Chairman Drek guy has it on his user page atm
[11:36] <@Nifky> and he's not stating it as an user page.
�01[11:36] <@Hunterj> Do my rules sound ok?
�01[11:36] <@Hunterj> I'll add them to the policy if they seem fine.
�06[11:36] * @Hunterj agrees,
[11:36] <@Nifky> it neither obeys to any of the things Hunterj says above.
�06[11:36] * @HiQu Agrees,'
[11:37] <+Tigernose> Chairman Drek user is also obstructing the real article of Drek, in terms of getting misleaded
�06[11:37] * @Nifky agrees to Hunterj;s rule.
�01[11:37] <@Hunterj> Yes.
�01[11:37] <@Hunterj> Which is a problem
�01[11:37] <@Hunterj> So with this rule passed we can stop it
�03[11:37] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 31: Strikeout votes�'
�01[11:37] <@Hunterj> We should move all of the striked out votes, in a nomination, to the bottom of the list, to avoid distortion in the list. For example, when using # to do the numbered list, if there is a crossed out vote, (which uses a bullet point), the list has to start again from underneath the crossed out vote. Also, if it's a crossed vote (which uses a bullet point), then the list still counts the crossed out vote. What I think we should do for that situation is, to change it to a bullet point and then move it down, to avoid it looking like it's a counted vote. Thanks TIGERCORP
[11:37] <@Nifky> k.
[11:37] <@Nifky> I've seen things about it on Wikipedia
�01[11:38] <@Hunterj> Crossed out votes are cahnged from a # to * and put to the bottom of the list. IMO
�06[11:38] * @Hunterj agrees.
[11:38] <@Nifky> and they do it so the numbers keep flowing when the vote's crossed out.
�06[11:38] * +Tigernose I agree with Hunterj
�01[11:38] <@Hunterj> Yeah
�01[11:38] <@Hunterj> HiQu? Nifky?
�06[11:38] * @Nifky is still thinking.
�06[11:38] * @HiQu agrees
�01[11:38] <@Hunterj> Ok
�06[11:38] * @Nifky agres.
[11:39] <@Nifky> agrees*
�03[11:39] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 32: Nefarious's height�'
�01[11:39] <@Hunterj>  If Ratchet is 5 feet, I think Nefarious looks like he is at least 10 feet, not 7 feet. HENRIKV4
�06[11:39] * +Tigernose agrees
�01[11:39] <@Hunterj> If it's all fan estimates then we remove it. Hunterj
�06[11:39] * +Tigernose agrees with Hunterj
[11:39] <+Tigernose> Remove it if it's speculation
�01[11:39] <@Hunterj> So we remove it then?
[11:39] <+Tigernose> yes
�01[11:39] <@Hunterj> It is speculation and assumption, right?
[11:39] <@HiQu> see talk page.
[11:39] <@HiQu> no wait,.
�06[11:39] * @Nifky agrees with Hunterj.
[11:39] <@HiQu> see talkpage
[11:40] <@Nifky> #{{support|strong}} - Great user who has demonstrated the need for the tools, and won't abuse them. Good luck! --<span style="font-family:trebuchet ms">[[User:Fairfield|Fair]][[User talk:Fairfield|<span style="color:#36f">field</span>]] <small>[[User:Fairfield/Deletion|Deleted?]]</small> 12:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC) #:<s>'''Support''' - Yup, level headed. Net benefit. -[[User:Djsasso|Djsasso]]...
[11:40] <@HiQu> of nefarious
[11:40] <@Nifky> ...([[User talk:Djsasso|talk]]) 13:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)</s>
[11:40] <@Nifky> sorry, that was for last topic.
[11:40] <@HiQu> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Nefarious
[11:40] <@HiQu> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Nefarious
[11:40] <@Nifky> but that's how they do it to keep the number flowing.
[11:40] <@Nifky> I told Henrik to raise that on the agenda.
[11:40] <@HiQu> theres more info.
[11:40] <@Nifky> thanks to him for spotting.
�01[11:41] <@Hunterj> Nifky: I don't want to do it like Wikipedia s the numbers are totalled up incorrectly.
[11:41] <@HiQu> i'll say take it out.
�01[11:41] <@Hunterj> Ok.
�06[11:41] * @HiQu agrees.
[11:41] <@Nifky> ok.
[11:41] <@Nifky> np
�01[11:41] <@Hunterj> Sorry, a bit off-topic but I can see the end of the list!
[11:41] <+Tigernose> Wow this is turning into the IRC version of Eastenders
�03[11:41] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 33: Manufacturer Infoboxes�'
�01[11:42] <@Hunterj> Tigernose - O_O
[11:42] <@Nifky> what's Eastenders?
�01[11:42] <@Hunterj> We shoud have infoboxes for manufactures such as Megacorp and Gadgetron. In my opinion it should have the parameters: name, logo (image), galaxies it operates in, CEO, headquartes and appears in which games. I think it adds a little bit more neccessary info to the manufacturer companies' articles.
�01[11:42] <@Hunterj> Nifky: Wikipedia it. ;)
[11:42] <@Nifky> k.
[11:42] <@Nifky> right.
�01[11:42] <@Hunterj> And hte infoboc thing was from Tigernose.
[11:42] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: lol
[11:42] <@Nifky> I know what's Numberwang but w/e..
�01[11:43] <@Hunterj> I'll stay out of this, I try to avoid infoboxes on the R&C wiki.
[11:43] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: Will you stay out of the vote or making the infoboxes
�01[11:43] <@Hunterj> So should we have one or not?
[11:43] <@Nifky> hmm, I am not really an user of infoboxes much, but..
�01[11:43] <@Hunterj> Making hte infoboxes.
�01[11:43] <@Hunterj> I'll probably vote.
[11:43] <@Nifky> hmm.
�06[11:44] * @Nifky votes neutral
�01[11:44] <@Hunterj> Do we need one?
�01[11:44] <@Hunterj> HiQu?
[11:44] <+Tigernose> I understand it's hard, but it makes the article better
�01[11:44] <@Hunterj> I don't infoboxes, I just don't do them on the R&C wiki for some reason.
�01[11:44] <@Hunterj> *don't mind
[11:44] <@HiQu> i don't really know
[11:44] <+Tigernose> Well, we can get someone to make one, but the matter now is that - should we have one?
�06[11:45] * @HiQu votes neutral.
�06[11:45] * @Hunterj votes for.
�01[11:45] <@Hunterj> *making an infobox for companies.
[11:45] <@Nifky> ok, 2 neutrals..
�06[11:45] * +Tigernose votes for, providing someone here can make one 
�01[11:45] <@Hunterj> My later idea can solve that...
[11:45] <@Nifky> ok, 2 votes for.
�03[11:45] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 34: Character infobox�'
�01[11:45] <@Hunterj> Character infobox - I think it should have more fields under the "biographical information". It now has only one field. Also the other sections should have more fields as well.
�01[11:45] <@Hunterj> -HiQu
�01[11:46] <@Hunterj> What fields?
�01[11:46] <@Hunterj> atm it has Homeworld:
�06[11:46] * @HiQu votes for adding more fields
�01[11:46] <@Hunterj> yeah, but what fields?
[11:47] <+Tigernose> ah now we can figure that out here
[11:47] <+Tigernose> What about real name
[11:47] <+Tigernose> Like Clank's serial number
�01[11:47] <@Hunterj> Real name 'should' be title of pages...
[11:47] <@Nifky> I'm thinking about size but it might be a highly debatable topic
[11:47] <@HiQu> and is that biographical information?
[11:47] <+Tigernose> And apparently Ratchet's name is actually something different according to Tachyon
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> Size is physical description
[11:48] <@Nifky> but it isn't revealed right..?
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[11:48] <+Tigernose> But Clank's original name is a serial number
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> Not revealed yet.
[11:48] <@Nifky> I'm talking about Tigernos.
[11:48] <+Tigernose> But it isn't a significant name
[11:48] <+Tigernose> Nifky:Not yet
[11:48] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> I don't think we should have real name
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> How about places of residence or something.
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> A short list of where they have lived.
[11:48] <@HiQu> hey, should species go to the biographical information
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> Clank would have Kerwan.
�01[11:48] <@Hunterj> No
[11:48] <+Tigernose> sorry lag
[11:48] <@Nifky> highly debated topic if unknown
�01[11:49] <@Hunterj> Biographical is to do with location.
[11:49] <+Tigernose> Yes that's good
[11:49] <+Tigernose> Endako....
�01[11:49] <@Hunterj> Ok.
[11:49] <@HiQu> but if you think he is native to that planet etc..
[11:50] <@Nifky> yes.
�01[11:50] <@Hunterj> Well, maybe we shouldn't expand the infobox then.
[11:50] <+Tigernose> Ratchet's homeoworld is unknown
[11:50] <@HiQu> It's Fastoon
[11:51] <+Tigernose> We need to more revising
�01[11:51] <@Hunterj> It's strongly implied that it's Fastoon, IIRC.
[11:51] <+Tigernose> It doesn't say ratchet was born on Fastoon
�01[11:51] <@Hunterj> But let's not start that argument again...
[11:51] <@Nifky> Tigernose: It was sorted last time.. :)
[11:51] <+Tigernose> He was taken away to Veldin, but from where
�01[11:51] <@Hunterj> We've had this on a previous meeting, and we decided it would stay as fastoon with a footnote explanation.
[11:51] <@HiQu> this is getting frustrating.
�06[11:52] * @Hunterj votes against expanding the infobox.
�06[11:52] * @Nifky votes against, highly debatable subject
[11:52] <+Tigernose> I think we should leave the infobox for now
[11:52] <@Nifky> I reckon
�06[11:52] * +Tigernose votes agaisnt for now, maybe later when ACit is released
�03[11:52] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 35: Mentioned only�'
�01[11:52] <@Hunterj> "Mentioned only" or "mentioned only"? Hunterj
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> I'm going with 'mentioned only' as I think the 'm' doesn't need to be capitalized, as it's in brackets anyway. Things in the same sentence in brackets don't need to be capitalized unless they are proper nouns.
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> -Nifky
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> An example of where it goes is like this:
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> ==Appearances==
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> *''[[Ratchet & Clank]]'' <small>(Mentioned only)</small>
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> Or:
�06[11:53] * @HiQu votes for mentioned only
[11:53] <@Nifky> thanks for 'pingíng me Hunterj.
�06[11:53] * @Nifky votes acc. to HiQu
�01[11:53] <@Hunterj> *''[[Ratchet & Clank]]'' <small>(mentioned only)</small>
�01[11:54] <@Hunterj> acc?
[11:54] <@Nifky> according.
�01[11:54] <@Hunterj> ah
[11:54] <@Nifky> sorry, wasn't bothered with long form today..
�06[11:54] * @Hunterj votes for Mentioned only
�01[11:54] <@Hunterj> np
[11:54] <@Nifky> Tigernose?
[11:54] <@Nifky> may be even.
�01[11:54] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[11:54] <@HiQu> wait.
�06[11:55] * +Tigernose votes neutral (this is more admin biased)
�01[11:55] <@Hunterj> Ok.
[11:55] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:55] <@Hunterj> mentioned only then.
[11:55] <@HiQu> Hunterj: Why do you think it should be capitalized?
�02[11:55] * @HiQu (n=sande_pr@unaffiliated/hiqu) Quit
�01[11:55] <@Hunterj> I just preffer it that way, I think as it's not part of a sentance the normal grammar rule doesn't apply.
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�03[11:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o HiQu
�01[11:55] <@Hunterj> I just preffer it that way, I think as it's not part of a sentance the normal grammar rule doesn't apply.
�02[11:56] * @HiQu (n=sande_pr@unaffiliated/hiqu) Quit (Remote closed the connection�)
�03[11:56] * +Tigernose (n=59f031b8@nat-vip.wikia.net) has left #R&C
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�03[11:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +o HiQu
�03[11:56] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 36: Users using different users' IP's�'
�03[11:56] * HiQu is now known as HiQu3
[11:56] <@Nifky> ok.
�02[11:56] * @HiQu3 (n=sande_pr@unaffiliated/hiqu) Quit (Client Quit�)
[11:57] <@Nifky> hmm..
�01[11:57] <@Hunterj> Then we can't ban his IP because another user's IP will be banned. What should we do with them. HiQu
�03[11:57] * HiQu (n=sande_pr@82.103.195.134) has joined #R&C
�03[11:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +o HiQu
�01[11:57] <@Hunterj> If the problem occurs again ask Wikia.
[11:57] <@Nifky> yes.
�03[11:57] * Tigernose (n=59f031b8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-1a88b22168ac4fe5) has joined #R&C
�03[11:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Tigernose
�01[11:57] <@Hunterj> It's the same with banning IPs. As they change regularly you nver block an Ip's account creation or block them for more than three months at the most.
[11:57] <+Tigernose> Hunterj:I just preffer it that way, I think as it's not part of a sentance the normal grammar rule doesn't apply <-- thats what I thought
[11:57] <@Nifky> Then we can't ban his IP because another user's IP will be banned. What should we do with them. HiQu
[11:58] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[11:58] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: resolved :)
�01[11:58] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: the next issue doesn't really affect you.
�01[11:58] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: I mean the one we're discussing right now.
[11:58] <@Nifky> yea.
�01[11:58] <@Hunterj> Great.
�01[11:58] <@Hunterj> Moving on then?
[11:58] <+Tigernose> Hunterj:I understand why, and I also prefer to stay out of this
�03[11:59] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 37: Struck from the agenda�'
�03[11:59] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 38: Category: Miscellaneous�'
�01[11:59] <@Hunterj> Again, needs splitting up.
[11:59] <@Nifky> yay. progressing quite slow and fast..
�01[11:59] <@Hunterj> My later idea will again solve this most likely
[11:59] <@Nifky> Hunterj: yeah.
�02[11:59] * @HiQu (n=sande_pr@unaffiliated/hiqu) Quit (Client Quit�)
�03[11:59] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 38: Category: To do list�'
�01[11:59] <@Hunterj> My later idea
[11:59] <+Tigernose> We need to be fast, I've been on the comp for 3 hours and I also need to go soon
�01[11:59] <@Hunterj> yes.
�03[11:59] * HiQu (n=sande_pr@unaffiliated/hiqu) has joined #R&C
�03[11:59] * ChanServ sets mode: +o HiQu
�01[11:59] <@Hunterj> nearly done now.
[11:59] <@Nifky> ok.
[11:59] <+Tigernose> good
[12:00] <@HiQu> having problems.
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> this might be a good way of getting some tasks completed. -Hunterj
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> Ok
[12:00] <+Tigernose> Good ide
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> Just do waht you can HiQu.
[12:00] <+Tigernose> *idea
[12:00] <@HiQu> did you say anything while I was offline?
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> NOt really.
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> Nothing that'll affect you.
[12:00] <@HiQu> so were still in topic 35?
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> No.
�01[12:00] <@Hunterj> 38
[12:00] <@Nifky> on Hunterj's idea.
[12:00] <+Tigernose> 39 lol
[12:00] <@HiQu> what the?
[12:00] <@Nifky> yeah :)
�03[12:00] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 39: Category: To do list�'
[12:00] <+Tigernose> we skipped loads
�01[12:01] <@Hunterj> My mistake.
[12:01] <@Nifky> yep.
�01[12:01] <@Hunterj> No, we did a few quickly, small things.
[12:01] <+Tigernose> don't worry HiQu, we skipped them
[12:01] <@HiQu> ok
[12:01] <@HiQu> We already have one.
[12:01] <@HiQu> but not that big.
[12:01] <+Tigernose> We should have Hunterj and HiQu to take care of the to do list maybe
�01[12:01] <@Hunterj> I'll set it up.
[12:02] <+Tigernose> I feel thats a good partnership for the job
�01[12:02] <@Hunterj> But I was thinking we should have two section for it
[12:02] <@Nifky> ok.
[12:02] <@HiQu> Mind if I help?
�01[12:02] <@Hunterj> An admin section, and a normal section.
[12:02] <+Tigernose> Hunterj:Yes good idea
�01[12:02] <@Hunterj> HiQu: Sure.
[12:02] <@HiQu> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Todo_List
[12:02] <+Tigernose> HiQu: I said before that you two are good for the job
[12:03] <@HiQu> that's an old for the main page
[12:03] <@Nifky> ..?
�01[12:03] <@Hunterj> HiQu: maybe you can set up the admin sub page, I've got a very clear idea of waht to do on the normal one, so then you can adjust it. And of course you can help me add stuff to the list... I also think we should have a page/section where normal users can requests tasks to be added.
�01[12:04] <@Hunterj> Can I delete that template?
[12:04] <@HiQu> sure
[12:04] <@HiQu> admin sub-page?
[12:04] <+Tigernose> It would be nice to make the to do list look like a clipboard via formatting and codes
[12:04] <@Nifky> I thought they could be on the same page.
[12:04] <+Tigernose> Just a thought though
[12:04] <@Nifky> Tigernose: Ok.
�01[12:05] <@Hunterj> I thnk admin to do list should be on a different page.
[12:05] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[12:05] <@Hunterj> makes it clearer.
�06[12:05] * @Nifky doesn't mind any wya
[12:05] <@Nifky> way*
�01[12:05] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: we'll see what we can do.
�06[12:05] * +Tigernose doesn't mind anyway either
�01[12:05] <@Hunterj> OK.
[12:05] <+Tigernose> * any way
�01[12:05] <@Hunterj> So we've all agreed to have a To-do list that me and HiQu will set up.
[12:06] <+Tigernose> yup
[12:06] <+Tigernose> moving on
�03[12:06] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 40:Walkthrough lists�'
�01[12:06] <@Hunterj> I mean the ones at Ratchet & Clank/Walkthrough. I was thinking we should expand them, have a brief summary of each level without spoilers. Have the current list where it is and then below have a sub heading (I mean the one with ===) for each planet with a short summary - this'll help people who don't know the names of the planets or if a planet appears more than once in a game it'll help as well. Hunterj
[12:06] <+Tigernose> I have a clear idea on what to do for this topic
[12:06] <+Tigernose> I agree with the section for the planet, then in bullet points the missions and a summary of it's appearance
[12:07] <+Tigernose> anyone?
�01[12:07] <@Hunterj> Ok.
�01[12:07] <@Hunterj> I think we should ahve the current bullet pointed list where it is, and the a section for each planet/level with Tigernose' idea built in.
[12:08] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[12:08] <@Hunterj> The missions found on the galactic map yes?
[12:08] <+Tigernose> yes
[12:08] <@Nifky> yes.
�01[12:08] <@Hunterj> Ok, sounds good to me.
�06[12:08] * @Hunterj agrees
[12:08] <+Tigernose> Should we have a couple of lines on the appearance of the planet to aid new users?
�01[12:08] <@Hunterj> yes.
[12:08] <+Tigernose> ok
�06[12:08] * +Tigernose agrees
�01[12:09] <@Hunterj> perfect for navigation
�06[12:09] * @Nifky agrees
�03[12:09] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - Topic 41: The Ratchet and Clank duo�'
[12:09] <+Tigernose> Okay
[12:09] <+Tigernose> Last topic
�01[12:09] <@Hunterj>  I was wondering if we could make an article about the relationship between Ratchet and Clank, and name it Ratchet and Clank, hence Ratchet & Clank is a game (note the "?"). If not this, then we could put a section on Ratchet's page called "Clank", and vice-versa, and describe how each acquaintance aid each other. TIGERCORP
[12:09] <@Nifky> I like the idea of a page of those two.
[12:09] <+Tigernose> can u refresh the part where it says note the ?
�01[12:09] <@Hunterj> Personally I think we should have a Friends or 'Realtionships' section. And Clank can havea sub section on Ratchet's page.
[12:09] <@HiQu> what about my comment?
[12:09] <+Tigernose> it supposed to say & not ?
[12:09] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[12:10] <@Hunterj> Oh, note the &
�01[12:10] <@Hunterj> Sorry.
[12:10] <+Tigernose> Yes a section thing
�01[12:10] <@Hunterj> I think a section thing.
[12:10] <@HiQu> np
[12:10] <+Tigernose> And like how CLank helps Ratchet with his upgrades
[12:10] <+Tigernose> And how Ratchet helps Clank with his agile body
[12:11] <@HiQu> section thing.
[12:11] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[12:11] <@Hunterj> Agreed.
[12:11] <@Nifky> section is good
�06[12:11] * +Tigernose agrees with sections onthe corresponding article
�01[12:11] <@Hunterj> The article Clank has a section titletGirlfriens
�01[12:11] <@Hunterj> We can make that a sub-section.
[12:11] <@Nifky> ok.
[12:11] <+Tigernose> yes
�01[12:11] <@Hunterj> Under relationships.
[12:11] <@Nifky> yes
[12:11] <+Tigernose> under relationships
�01[12:12] <@Hunterj> And have a section for friends or something similar.
�06[12:12] * @Hunterj agrees to sections.
[12:12] <+Tigernose> So, Hunterj what is this "later idea" you talk about
�01[12:12] <@Hunterj> To-do list
[12:12] <@Nifky> Relationships should cover all of them.
�01[12:12] <@Hunterj> It's a way of getting categories etc finished.
�01[12:12] <@Hunterj> Yes
[12:12] <@Nifky> friends are a type of relationship..
[12:12] <+Tigernose> good
�03[12:12] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun - The IRC meeting has begun - Items off the agenda.�'
[12:12] <+Tigernose> That was good
[12:12] <@Nifky> ok.
[12:13] <+Tigernose> 40 items covered, yay!
�03[12:13] * Nifky changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has begun  - Items off the agenda.�'
[12:13] <@Nifky> sry. double heading..
�01[12:13] <@Hunterj> Thanks
[12:13] <@Nifky> Tigernose:lol.
[12:13] <+Tigernose> anyone?
�01[12:13] <@Hunterj> Not bad time really.
�01[12:13] <@Hunterj> Just over 2 hours.
�01[12:13] <@Hunterj> Anything>
[12:13] <@Nifky> np.
[12:13] <@Nifky> Hunterj: 3 hours.
[12:13] <+Tigernose> its a shame not everyone could come
[12:13] <@Nifky> I remember going here at 7 pm..
[12:13] <+Tigernose> I was the only non-admin
�01[12:14] <@Hunterj> yeah
[12:14] <@Nifky> anyone realise that you are from the north hemipshere? xD
[12:14] <@Nifky> all of you anyway.
[12:14] <@Nifky> ok, back to whatever the topic is..
�01[12:14] <@Hunterj> I was thinking, it might be possible to create some sort of featured video for the R&C wiki. IF we get big wiki status.
�01[12:14] <@Hunterj> We ahve a long way to go though
�01[12:14] <@Hunterj> A video in celebration.
[12:14] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Ok.
[12:14] <+Tigernose> Featured video?
�01[12:14] <@Hunterj> 2000 and something articles
[12:15] <+Tigernose> Wow
[12:15] <@Nifky> that should be nice :)
[12:15] <+Tigernose> If we could have a YouTube account for our wiki that would be great
[12:15] <@Nifky> 2500 for big wiki status.
�01[12:15] <@Hunterj> I mean a video thing, to celebrate and in thanks etc.
[12:15] <@Nifky> yeah.
�01[12:15] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: Hm, a good idea.
�01[12:15] <@Hunterj> HiQu: Maybe you could set one up.
�01[12:15] <@Hunterj> Ratchet & Clank wiki
[12:15] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Darthipedia has it's own wiki emial address.
[12:15] <+Tigernose> Hunterj: A lot of the wikis I've worked in have a YouTube account to help boost status
�01[12:15] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[12:15] <@Nifky> email*
[12:15] <@Nifky> ok.
[12:15] <+Tigernose> I got a couple of users coming in my wiki when I advertised
[12:15] <@Nifky> nice idea Tigernose
�01[12:15] <@Hunterj> I don't want to have our own e-mail.
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> Actually, let me set it up.
[12:16] <+Tigernose> no
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> I have a aress purely for iwkis
[12:16] <+Tigernose> We already have the wiki
[12:16] <@Nifky> ok.
[12:16] <@Nifky> same here.
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> *adress
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> Oh, could you do it then Nifky?
[12:16] <@Nifky> I haven't set it in my wikia preferences though.
[12:16] <+Tigernose> I'm familiar with YouTube as well, but I don't have any Ratchet videos
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> Save me doing one extra thing...
[12:16] <@Nifky> hotmail?
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> Mine's yahoo e-mail
[12:16] <@Nifky> It would be hotmail.com if I set one here atm.
[12:16] <@Nifky> k.
�01[12:16] <@Hunterj> ok
[12:17] <@Nifky> nifky@hotmail.com for whatever you want..
[12:17] <@Nifky> ok, wait.
�01[12:17] <@Hunterj> I mean can you set up a YouTube account for the wiki.
[12:17] <@Nifky> oh youtube.
[12:17] <@Nifky> right.
�01[12:17] <@Hunterj> The only thing with an account like that is only admins can use it
[12:17] <+Tigernose> Who, Nifky?
�01[12:17] <@Hunterj> yes
[12:17] <+Tigernose> Ohhhhh
�01[12:17] <@Hunterj> If other users want to link their videos to our wiki they can use tags.
[12:17] <+Tigernose> Only admins?
[12:18] <@Nifky> any ideas for a passwords?
�01[12:18] <@Hunterj> Yeah, we can't give out hte password to anyone...
[12:18] <@Nifky> sry, it's a rly bad question..
[12:18] <@Nifky> PM me about it.
[12:18] <+Tigernose> I'm good with videos... ;(
�01[12:18] <@Hunterj> You can e-mial it to me.
�01[12:18] <@Hunterj> *e-mail
[12:18] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[12:18] <@Hunterj> If you want it under the R&C account.
[12:18] <+Tigernose> At least I can see the videos
�01[12:18] <@Hunterj> Nifky: I was talking to Tigernose...
�01[12:18] <@Hunterj> Sorry.
[12:18] <@Nifky> np
[12:19] <+Tigernose> Ratchet & Clank wiki - the YouTube account: nice
�01[12:19] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: If you have a video for the R&C wiki you could e-mail it to me to upload, and I'd link to your user page, YouTube account etc.
�01[12:19] <@Hunterj> Anyway, anything else to discuss?
[12:19] <+Tigernose> Sure
[12:19] <@Nifky> Hunterj: Youtube account needs an email address.
[12:19] <+Tigernose> Ah
�01[12:19] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[12:20] <@Nifky> I can use my one if you want
[12:20] <+Tigernose> Oh, guys I advertised my Road Trip Adventure wiki via YouTube and it got in a few users
�01[12:20] <@Hunterj> No, I've got a personal e-mail adress for wikis
�01[12:20] <@Hunterj> Ok
[12:20] <@HiQu> I think we should create a R&C wiki email adress.
[12:20] <@HiQu> *an
[12:20] <+Tigernose> Does anyone want to see a link or something - what I did was showed features of the wiki via a screen recorder
[12:20] <@Nifky> ok.
�01[12:20] <@Hunterj> Hm, Agreed.
�01[12:21] <@Hunterj> HiQu: You;'re right.
�01[12:21] <@Hunterj> Anyway, are we done now?
[12:21] <+Tigernose> yes
�03[12:21] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The IRC meeting has ended. Summaries and transcripts coming soon.�'