This is the transcript for the IRC meeting on March 7 2009. A summary of the events is also available. Please note that some topics on the agenda may have been missed due to them being struck off of the agenda and resolved before the meeting.

�03[21:16] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 2 - Nominations Issue�'
[21:16] <@Hunterj> Topic 1 was struck off of the list.
[21:16] <@Hunterj> Nobody ever changes the numbers so do we take it off or keep it? Mobutu4
[21:16] <@Hunterj> Keep, because it just makes it easier to see. ??ƒ??
[21:17] <@Hunterj> That was from Nifky
[21:17] <@Hunterj> I think we should keep it.Henrikv4
[21:17] <@Hunterj> note that we use the # to count them, but nobody changes it. I have to. Mobutu4
[21:17] <@Hunterj> So.
[21:17] <@Hunterj> I personally agree with Nifky.
[21:17] <+Tigernose> Keep them
[21:17] <@HiQu> Keep
[21:17] <@Hunterj> And I also update it when I remember.
[21:17] <@Hunterj> OK
[21:17] <@Hunterj> So we're keeping them.
[21:17] <@HiQu> me too
[21:17] <+Tigernose> People need to remember more, thats all.
[21:17] <@HiQu> yeah
[21:17] <+Tigernose> It's easier to examine the results that way.
[21:17] <+Tigernose> More clearer
�03[21:18] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 3 - Nominated template�'
[21:18] <@Hunterj> http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Nominated
[21:18] <@Hunterj>  I think we don't even need it. HiQu
[21:18] <@Hunterj> I think we should put it on the talk page of a nominated article, and then put (below it) when it was featured on the main page, or remove it if it's unsuccessful. Hunterj
[21:18] <@Hunterj> I don't think we need it. Henrikv4
[21:18] <@Hunterj> I say we leave it. Clank 720
[21:18] <+Tigernose> Its essential
[21:18] <@Hunterj> I think it should go on the talk page.
[21:18] <+Tigernose> Nothing bad about it
[21:18] <@HiQu> agreed
[21:18] <+Tigernose> Yes
[21:19] <@Hunterj> Anyone can nominate almost any article, so I don't think it should go on the article's page
[21:19] <@HiQu> but we should add a time stamp to it.
[21:19] <+Tigernose> But somewhere to attract users to vote for it - i.e talk page or maybe still on userpage
[21:19] <@Hunterj> Yes
[21:19] <@Hunterj> Well, the user that places it there just adds their sig.
[21:19] <+Tigernose> HiQu: Good idea, but I'm not sure
[21:19] <@Hunterj> Nominated by ~~~~
[21:20] <@Hunterj> Then we add featured on: <time>
[21:20] <@HiQu> Featured on: ~~~
[21:20] <@HiQu> right?
[21:20] <@Hunterj> Um, depends.
[21:20] <@Hunterj> If someone adds that when they cahnged the FA then yes.
[21:20] <@Hunterj> IF we forget...
[21:20] <@HiQu> I mean ~~~~~
[21:20] <@Hunterj> I think it's ~~~~~
[21:20] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[21:20] <@Hunterj> OK, so that's mostly an admin thing.
[21:21] <@HiQu> yes
[21:21] <@Hunterj> LethalReflex?
[21:21] <+Tigernose> LethalReflex: Are you here, please reply, just for notice
[21:21] <+LethalReflex> Is Nifky Australian?
[21:21] <+Tigernose> lol same thing same time
[21:21] <@Hunterj> Yes
[21:21] <+LethalReflex> Ok.
[21:22] <+LethalReflex> Hunterj: What am I replying to?
[21:22] <+Tigernose> What about
[21:23] <@Hunterj> The topic.
[21:23] <+LethalReflex> Oh.
[21:23] <+LethalReflex> I vote against.
[21:23] <@Hunterj> Against...?
[21:23] <+Tigernose> lol
[21:24] <+Tigernose> I'm in support for Nomination templates to stay there
[21:25] <@HiQu> pretty quiet.
[21:25] <+Tigernose> Yeah
[21:25] <+Tigernose> ...........................
[21:25] <@HiQu> oh. it was my lag.
[21:26] <+Tigernose>                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
[21:26] <+LethalReflex> It just looks a bit more cluttered.  The FA thing Wook uses isn't bad though.
[21:26] <@Hunterj> ok
[21:26] <+Tigernose> are we on topic 3?
[21:26] <@Hunterj> So, votes for putting on the talk page with a time stamp?
[21:26] <@Hunterj> Yes
[21:27] <+Tigernose> Yes
[21:27] <+LethalReflex> Yes
[21:27] <@Hunterj> ok.
[21:27] <@Hunterj> Moving on.
[21:27] <+Tigernose> This is getting a bit tedious, no offense - but then again only 4 online
[21:27] <@Hunterj> HiQu came up with the idea, and even if he opposes it doesn't matter. 3-1.
[21:27] <@Hunterj> Well.
[21:27] <@Hunterj> I was expecting more.
[21:27] <@Hunterj> Only about double this to go
[21:28] <+Tigernose> No.5?
[21:28] <@Hunterj> A lot are crossed off
�03[21:28] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 5 - Walkthrough planets�'
[21:28] <@Hunterj> 4 is struck off of the agenda
[21:28] <+Tigernose> Underwater Base should have its own walkthrough
[21:28] <@Hunterj>  the Underwater Base is on planet Hydrano but always when you use your map or load game feature it says the location on the left and the planet/main location on the right. While your as Qwark on planet Hydrano it says Dam's Edge, Hydrano But while your in the underwater base it says Main Bulkhead Lock, Underwater Base and Super Secret Base, Underwater Base instead of Underwater Base, Hydrano so was thinking; should Underwater Base have it's own walkthr
[21:29] <+Tigernose> It's such a big area, and wouldn't fit in (or tie with) the Hydrano walkthrough
[21:29] <@Hunterj> Also Obani Gemini and Draco have their own walthroughs even if the main location is Zygan System (They're just the small locations like the Dam's Edge) but that's a good thing I think. And Underwater Base is the big location. HiQu
[21:29] <@Hunterj> I think Underwater Base should have its own walkthrough. Henrikv4
[21:29] <@Hunterj> I think they should all have their own walkthroughs.
[21:30] <+LethalReflex> Same.
[21:30] <@HiQu> Yeah. I think it should.
[21:30] <+Tigernose> What - the things inside Underwater Base?
�02[21:30] * @HiQu (n=sande_pr@e82-103-198-195.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Quit
[21:30] <@Hunterj> OK, so before we move on let's wait for HiQu to reconnect. Hopefully to solve apparant lag?
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[21:31] <+LethalReflex> Wb.
[21:31] <+Tigernose> hes back
[21:31] <@Hunterj> ok
�03[21:31] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 6 - Sockpuppeting�'
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[21:32] <@Hunterj> ok.
[21:32] <+Tigernose> Hmmm, sockpuppeting
[21:32] <+Tigernose> Its not right for people to do it on this wiki
[21:32] <@Hunterj> Yeah, when users do that to escape bans... well you can get blocked indefinitely from using sockpuppeted accounts or making new ones due to the checkuser thing on Wikipedia. ??ƒ???
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[21:32] <@Hunterj> From NIfky
[21:32] <+LethalReflex> No sockpuppeting, even if I was banned for that once (not on R&C).:S
[21:32] <@Hunterj> In Wikipedia, they have a changing username page that allows users to change their name when they feel like it, so you can't sockpuppet by creating another account because you say 'I chose a bad username'. In Wikia, obviously there's no changing username page to change your username and keep the same account with the all the contributions you had and stuff, so that's why people create new accounts, like LJ, but I see no purpose creating multiple accoun
[21:32] <@Hunterj> Nifky again
[21:32] <+Tigernose> It has, to be honest alternate rules to most nbut I oppose of it - incase anything happens
[21:32] <@Hunterj> From Nifky again: On Darthipedia they block sockpuppeting users and under age COPPA users. You can see in the block log that Madclaw blocked all 3 accounts of LJ (Lombax Jerk, HK22 and KrazyKat for indefinite) and Supergeeky1 blocked Mobutu4 (until 2012).
[21:33] <+Tigernose> Like lose password
[21:33] <@Hunterj> Yes, I think we should have a policy like that. Henrikv4
[21:33] <+Tigernose> I have lag coming back
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[21:35] <+LethalReflex> Wb.
[21:36] <@Hunterj> Here's my thoughts: Sockpuppeting is not allowed. Any multiple accounts from a user must be decalred by the user, and explained about why they have the account. If a new account is created previous accounts are banned for infinite. Any sockpuppets/other accounts used to doge bans are blocked infitely and the user's other account may recieve a ban of varying length depending on what the user did with the sockpuppet
[21:36] <@HiQu> agreed
[21:36] <+LethalReflex> Such as mine.
[21:36] <+LethalReflex> Agreed.
[21:36] <@HiQu> and that means our last topic is solved too?
[21:36] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[21:37] <@Hunterj> And about LombaxJerk/HK22 etc.
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[21:37] <Tigernose> Yeah, the topics are the same techincally
[21:37] <@HiQu> So I'll block them now?
[21:37] <Tigernose> Still lag, one sec
[21:38] <Tigernose> No actually it's alright
[21:38] <@Hunterj> I'll sort taht out, he won't get into trouble over the other accounts he's made as he hasn't done anything wrong with them, except maybe the LombaxJerk2 account which I'm willing to ignore as he's currently banned, and as he did this before the meeting.
[21:38] <@Hunterj> No.
[21:38] <@Hunterj> I'll sort it HiQu.
[21:38] <@Hunterj> Same with LethalReflex's old account.
[21:38] <@HiQu> ok
�03[21:38] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 7 - The size of the images on articles�'
[21:39] <@Hunterj> Should there be a section about it in the image policy. Some users put images in articles with huge size (332px for example) and they don't look good. HiQu
[21:39] <@Hunterj> Try using 200px or 250px. It works fine. Nifky
[21:39] <Tigernose> Yeah
[21:39] <@HiQu> 250px max.
[21:39] <Tigernose> It does get pixelated
[21:39] <Tigernose> brb
[21:39] <@Hunterj> I think it depends on the image and the article, but we should probably have some guidelines, not a policy. Hunterj
[21:39] <@HiQu> that's my thoughts
[21:39] <@Hunterj> I agree with Hunterj.Henrikv4
[21:39] <+LethalReflex> 250px when in a infobox at the top of the page, and 180px when it is anywhere else on a page.
[21:39] <@Hunterj> I can write up some guidlines, but I don't think we should have an enforced policy.
[21:39] <+LethalReflex> Ok.
[21:39] <@HiQu> we have a major images with 200px
[21:40] <@Hunterj> Yes, but if the iamge if of bad quality, smaller images can be acceptable in the infobox.
[21:40] <@HiQu> true
[21:40] <@Hunterj> I think quality over size
[21:40] <@Hunterj> Which is why guidlines work better than a policy.
[21:40] <@HiQu> ok
[21:40] <Tigernose> I'm back
[21:40] <@HiQu> everyone agree?
[21:41] <Tigernose> Oh and sorry not pixelated - doesn't fit with article layout
[21:41] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[21:41] <Tigernose> I agree with Lethal
[21:41] <@Hunterj> I'll write some guidlines based on what everyone said above.
[21:42] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: SO would be happy for me to write some guidlines that recommend those image sizes?
[21:42] <Tigernose> Yup thats a good idea
[21:43] <@Hunterj> OK
�03[21:43] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 7 - The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 8 - Appearances�'
[21:43] <Tigernose> Yes of course
[21:43] <Tigernose> Every in-game article should have one
[21:43] <Tigernose> Like Hunterj said, it will help navigation
[21:44] <@Hunterj> hould we have an appearance section on each game article? One that lists appearances, this would boost links and could be very useful to readers. It'd also help site navigation. Hunterj
[21:44] <@Hunterj> So we'd have Appearances.
[21:44] <@Hunterj> Then Characters
[21:44] <@Hunterj> And a list of cahracters.
[21:44] <@Hunterj> Then Vehicles.
[21:44] <@Hunterj> Technology
[21:44] <Tigernose> Wait -
[21:44] <@Hunterj> Under technology gadgets and weaponry.
[21:44] <@Hunterj> OK
[21:44] <Tigernose> Don't we already have those
[21:44] <@HiQu> no.
[21:44] <Tigernose> right im confused now
[21:44] <@Hunterj> No.
[21:44] <@HiQu> see wookiepedia
[21:45] <@Hunterj> On the game article itself.
[21:45] <@Hunterj> Like this:
[21:45] <@Hunterj> !swgames Star Wars: Empire at War#Appearances
[21:45] <Tigernose> Okay - so what you're saying is
[21:46] <Tigernose> Each article on a game
[21:46] <+LethalReflex> Sure, don't see why not.
[21:46] <Tigernose> Should have the above
[21:46] <+LethalReflex> Wish, I could actually help though.:(
[21:46] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[21:46] <@Hunterj> With a list of appearances.
[21:46] <Tigernose> So why did you only say "Appearances"
[21:46] <+LethalReflex> Because those are the things that appear in the game.
[21:46] <@Hunterj> I expaloined in my comment Tigernose.
[21:46] <+LethalReflex> Brb.
[21:47] <Tigernose> Wait - how can a game appear
[21:47] <@Hunterj> Right
[21:47] <@Hunterj> Appearances
[21:47] <@Hunterj> As in a list of things that appear in the game.
[21:47] <Tigernose> Oh ok
[21:47] <@Hunterj> So a list of cahracters taht appear in the game.
[21:47] <@Hunterj> etc
[21:47] <Tigernose> I understand now
[21:47] <@Hunterj> It's not where the game appears, it's about what appears in the game.
[21:47] <@Hunterj> Good.
[21:47] <@Hunterj> Sorry if I wasn't clear.
[21:47] <@Hunterj> So, are you in support?
[21:48] <Tigernose> Don't worry
[21:48] <@Hunterj> OK
[21:48] <Tigernose> And yes - I'm in total support
[21:48] <Tigernose> I would love that, seriously
[21:48] <@Hunterj> great
�03[21:48] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 7 - The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 9 - References needed for unreleased appearances?�'
[21:48] <@Hunterj> I think they should be there. For example if something was cut from a game (Up Your Arsenal for example) and it was marked as an appearance I think it should have a referance which tells where did we got the information from. (Insomniac Museum or website for example). HiQu
[21:48] <Tigernose> I agree
[21:48] <@Hunterj> Also when Hunterj contacts the publishers of Clone Home and if it was deleted, I'd like to have references for every article (like Ratchet) which can prove that they would've been in the game. (IGN images for example). HiQu
[21:49] <@Hunterj> I think they should be there. Henrikv4
[21:49] <Tigernose> Hunterj: Have you contacted Clone Home?
�03[21:49] * HiQu changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 9 - References needed for unreleased appearances?�'
[21:49] <@HiQu> It had an error.
[21:49] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[21:49] <@Hunterj> Thanks
[21:50] <@HiQu> np
[21:50] <@HiQu> IGN currently says that Clone Hoome was not released.
[21:50] <@HiQu> formerly it said that it was.
[21:50] <Tigernose> So, no one has played it?
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[21:50] <@HiQu> But we would of course be happy if we'd get some more info.
[21:51] <@Hunterj> Yeah.
[21:51] <@Hunterj> I need to contact them...
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[21:51] <Tigernose> sorry about that
[21:51] <@Hunterj> I'll post teh e-mail on the site as a sub page when I get a reply, when  Isend them a message...
[21:51] <@Hunterj> And I agree with all of the comments.
[21:52] <Tigernose> anyway - What would make it so hard to not know if a game off a highly famous and popular series?
[21:52] <Tigernose> Was it because it was made by Handheld Games?
[21:52] <@HiQu> yes
[21:53] <@Hunterj> You should try contacting game developers...
[21:53] <@HiQu> mobile games are not a big thing. they just appear on websites one day and you can buy them.
[21:53] <@Hunterj> Particularly Sony ones.
[21:53] <@Hunterj> Or ones that work with Sony
[21:53] <Tigernose> Ok, right
[21:53] <@HiQu> yes
[21:53] <Tigernose> Topic agreed?
[21:53] <@Hunterj> So I'll sort ath out at some point.
[21:54] <@Hunterj> Other than that I think they do all need references.
[21:54] <@Hunterj> Like HiQu suggested, but we can work on that.
[21:55] <@Hunterj> Also, the Clone Home stuff, as the game wasn't released doesn't it need the {{cut}} template or whatever the template is...
[21:55] <@Hunterj> On all of the article with it.
[21:55] <@HiQu> yes.
�03[21:55] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 10 - References needed for unreleased appearances?�'
[21:55] <@Hunterj> It was topic 10...
�03[21:56] * Hunterj changes topic to 'The Ratchet & Clank wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/ | The IRC meeting has begun. | Topic 11 - Kragmites�'
[21:56] <Tigernose> Ooh, my topic next lol.
[21:56] <Tigernose> This one is interesting
[21:56] <@Hunterj> There is an article for the creatures Kragmites, found in some abandoned comics on the R&C website. But I think they are Cragmites. It says they were the original idea for them, but they seem identical in appearance and behaviour - obviously except for their name. Tigernose-
[21:56] <@HiQu> I would vote for contacting Insomniac.
[21:56] <@Hunterj> I don't know about this. I mean, in Tools of Destruction, I belive Klunk's name was spelled Clunk in the subtitles. Henrikv4
[21:56] <@Hunterj> OK, but I'm not going to try
[21:57] <Tigernose> Henrikv4's comment: I doubt it was a spelling mistake
[21:57] <@Hunterj> I've asked them about the legality of downloading soundtracks of the game (as they don't sell them). No reply in three weeks
[21:57] <@Hunterj> I agree with Henrikv4
[21:57] <Tigernose> Don't bother then - work it out here...
[21:57] <@Hunterj> I think they're seperate species.
[21:57] <@HiQu> The skin color seems wrong and they don't have backpacks.
[21:58] <Tigernose> Ah but that's probably they're raw form
[21:58] <@Hunterj> Maybe a pre-evolved or sub species form?
[21:58] <Tigernose> Yeah
[21:58] <Tigernose> Maybe thats what Cragmites were casually
[21:58] <@Hunterj> I think we should leave the articles as they are
[21:59] <@HiQu> The Cragmite Warriors seem a bit like Kragmites but I think they're seperate species.
[21:59] <@Hunterj> They look very diffetent to me.
[21:59] <@Hunterj> *different
[21:59] <Tigernose> Do they?
[21:59] <@HiQu> Cragmite Warrior.
[21:59] <Tigernose> They look identical to me
[21:59] <@HiQu> The pictured is Cragmite Hunterj
[21:59] <@HiQu> sorry Hunter
[22:00] <@HiQu> I swear. I didn't do that on purpose.
[22:00] <@Hunterj> ok
[22:00] <@HiQu> I'll find an image quickly
[22:00] <Tigernose> ?
[22:00] <@Hunterj> "t is possible (and highly likely) that Insomniac derived Cragmite from Kragmite."
[22:01] <Tigernose> Okay, but stil
[22:01] <Tigernose> They may be the same thing apart from their name in my opinion
[22:01] <Tigernose> But if they look different, then you decide
[22:02] <@HiQu> Hunterj: The Cragmite Warrior's face looks like Kragmites. but not skincolor. And Cragmite Hunters and Cragpoles look different.
[22:02] <Tigernose> Oh does Cragmite Warrior not have an image
[22:02] <Tigernose> Good point
[22:02] <Tigernose> But!
[22:02] <@Hunterj> Well, I think they're seperate as Insomniac Games reffer to the Kragmites and Cragmites seperately
[22:02] <Tigernose> The Kragmites in the picture may be Cragmite Hunters
[22:02] <Tigernose> *Warriors
[22:03] <@Hunterj> and unless they say they're the same they're not, no matter what we assume.
[22:04] <Tigernose> So, we shouldn't take any further action at all?
[22:04] <Tigernose> Anything?
[22:04] <@Hunterj> IMO, yes.
[22:04] <Tigernose> IMO?
[22:04] <@HiQu> The Cragmites have blue skincolor and have high technology. Kragmites have brown skin color and look like cave men.
[22:04] <Tigernose> Brown?
[22:04] <@Hunterj> In My Opinion.
[22:04] <Tigernose> Are there any other images of Kragmites?
[22:05] <@HiQu> Besides weren't all of the cragmites in an other dimention during Deadlocked?
[22:05] <@Hunterj> I think Kragmites are different.
[22:05] <@Hunterj> Yes.
[22:05] <@Hunterj> the Great War was before Ratchet met Clank.
[22:05] <@HiQu> Yes. Insomniac probably figured out Cragmites from their old Kragmites.
[22:05] <Tigernose> Ah, yeah
[22:05] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[22:06] <@Hunterj> OK
[22:06] <Tigernose> Thats my point then though
[22:06] <Tigernose> Shouldn't we take any further action on that
[22:06] <@Hunterj> No, we know they're different.
[22:06] <Tigernose> If they were just an original idea - shouldn't we post some info on Cragmite article
[22:06] <@Hunterj> Already some on the Kragmite article.
[22:07] <@Hunterj> But it's fan speculation.
[22:07] <@Hunterj> Insomniac never actually said they were similar
[22:07] <Tigernose> Cragmite article though
[22:07] <Tigernose> At least place something on there
[22:07] <Tigernose> then
[22:07] <@Hunterj> Under trivia, something like "It is likely that"
[22:08] <Tigernose> Okay
[22:08] <Tigernose> And I saw another picture of Kragmites
[22:08] <Tigernose> They look different
[22:08] <@Hunterj> ok
[22:08] <Tigernose> Probably a pre-evoloution form though
[22:08] <Tigernose> What about the Cantor
[22:09] <@Hunterj> yeah, but that's fan speculation.
[22:09] <Tigernose> When there's a Kragmite, there's a Cantor
[22:09] <Tigernose> ?
[22:09] <@Hunterj> amd
[22:09] <@Hunterj> *and?
[22:09] <Tigernose> What is the relation
[22:09] <@Hunterj> I don't know.
[22:10] <Tigernose> How come right when there's a Kragmite there is a Cantor
[22:10] <@Hunterj> They never said what it is.
[22:10] <@Hunterj> *why
[22:10] <@HiQu> tHEY DO
[22:11] <@Hunterj> It was just something Starshiled said
[22:11] <@HiQu> on the comic starshield says that.
[22:11] <Tigernose> So, no relation?
[22:11] <@HiQu> When ever theres Cragmites... there's... CANTORS!
[22:11] <@HiQu> something like that
[22:11] <@Hunterj> Yeah, so no offical realtion, nothing in the articles beyond the Starshield quote
[22:11] <Tigernose> Right, I'll at least add that to the Cantor article: when theres a kragmit theres a cantor
[22:11] <@Hunterj> Which is already in the article
[22:12] <@Hunterj> Moving on?
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[22:12] <@Hunterj> Some of them are in a wrong tense. Some of them don't have sources. I think we should fix all of our featured articles. And again we should split it up among several users. HiQu
[22:12] <@Hunterj> Yes, we should fix the featured articles. Henrikv4
[22:13] <@Hunterj> Many of the FA's were featured before there was a manual of style.
[22:13] <@Hunterj> So some need some work.
[22:13] <Tigernose> Yes
[22:13] <@Hunterj> How about someone makes a forum about them.
[22:13] <Tigernose> Not really much of an enquiry...
[22:13] <@Hunterj> HiQu, fancy opening a administrative forum to split the work up? 
[22:13] <@Hunterj> I've got plenty to do from last meeting, never mind this one...
[22:14] <@Hunterj> Topic 14 has been covered earlier
[22:14] <Tigernose> Just an off-topic question
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[22:14] <@Hunterj> go ahead
[22:14] <Tigernose> Before, each game had a website
[22:14] <Tigernose> Now I can't find them
[22:14] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[22:14] <@Hunterj> one sec
[22:14] <Tigernose> Have they been removed?
[22:15] <Tigernose> They were fantastic!
[22:15] <Tigernose> There were many secret features and info then
[22:15] <Tigernose> Shame last time i read them was probably 3 years ago
[22:15] <@Hunterj> They take them down
[22:15] <@Hunterj> Most of the info, in fact all of it AFAIK is spread throughout the games.
[22:16] <Tigernose> Sorry - the acronyms...
[22:16] <@Hunterj> As Far As I Know
[22:16] <@Hunterj> and np (No Problem) :P
[22:16] <Tigernose> No, I found out a lot about GC
[22:16] <@Hunterj> http://www.insomniacgames.com/games/rd.php
[22:16] <Tigernose> Hunterj: just the rarer ones lol
[22:17] <@Hunterj> heh
[22:17] <@Hunterj> That's as close as you get to an official site
[22:17] <Tigernose> Do you not remember them?
[22:18] <@Hunterj> http://www.ratchetandclankgadgets.com/
[22:18] <Tigernose> The other ones
[22:18] <@HiQu> other ones were taken down.
[22:18] <Tigernose> Ones for GC, UYA and DL
[22:18] <@HiQu> yes
[22:18] <@HiQu> about a year ago.
[22:18] <Tigernose> Until the Ps3 they were still there
[22:18] <@Hunterj> http://www.ratchetandclankgadgets.com/ - this has LOADS of info
[22:18] <Tigernose> I wonder why
[22:18] <@Hunterj> Although I think they're all in the game...
[22:18] <@Hunterj> Info that is
[22:19] <@Hunterj> Server space
[22:19] <Tigernose> I know but...
[22:19] <@Hunterj> Game sites don't stay up for too long, not many people use them and they cost money
[22:19] <Tigernose> THere was loads of secret info on there
[22:19] <Tigernose> As far as I remember
[22:19] <@HiQu> old sites crash sometimes if noone takes care of thhem.
[22:19] <+LethalReflex> I hate it when that happens.
[22:19] <Tigernose> Well thats a shame
[22:20] <Tigernose> I loved those sites
[22:20] <@Hunterj> http://www.us.playstation.com/ratchetandclank/misadventures.html
[22:20] <+LethalReflex> Those type of sites usually have lots of good info and sometimes cool downloads.
[22:21] <@Hunterj> That site might be ok
[22:21] <Tigernose> Those sites had the lowdown on all of the weaponsa nd creatures
[22:21] <Tigernose> Oh well.
[22:21] <@Hunterj> teh links I've given have that as well
[22:22] <@Hunterj> I expect it's similar info
[22:22] <Tigernose> Had you checked the removed ones out though
[22:22] <@Hunterj> Yes
[22:22] <@Hunterj> NOthing
[22:22] <@Hunterj> Hm, actually.
[22:22] <@Hunterj> brb
[22:22] <Tigernose> They had twice as much information than the whole rc website
[22:23] <@HiQu> I don't believe that :P
[22:23] <Tigernose> Well you should
[22:23] <Tigernose> I vaguely remember some of the features
[22:23] <Tigernose> But lok at the websites now
[22:23] <Tigernose> They have nothing
[22:23] <+LethalReflex> Brb.
[22:23] <Tigernose> Practically everything is "Coming Soon".
[22:23] <@HiQu> You don't know how many information 2000+ articles have.
[22:24] <@Hunterj> click on the coming soon section...
[22:24] <@Hunterj> It has ifno
[22:24] <@Hunterj> *info
[22:24] <@HiQu> They've been coming soon for about a year now.
[22:24] <Tigernose> Lol
[22:24] <@Hunterj> Well, the orginal R&C games' site is still up.
[22:24] <@Hunterj> ratchetandclankgadgets.com
[22:25] <Tigernose> Pretty good
[22:25] <Tigernose> Nowhere near as good as the GC site
[22:25] <@HiQu> yes
[22:25] <@Hunterj> R&C 2 site is down.
[22:25] <@Hunterj> Sorry, Going Commando site...
[22:25] <Tigernose> Yes
[22:26] <Tigernose> Whole point
[22:26] <@Hunterj> R&C 3 site is down
[22:26] <Tigernose> I only vaguely rememember, but still I just remember 3 or 4 years ago, me looking through the GC site and finding everything lol. The good old days...
[22:27] <@Hunterj> http://www.ratchet-gladiator.com/
[22:27] <Tigernose> Oooh
[22:27] <@HiQu> that's still up.
[22:27] <@Hunterj> I remember the GC site clearly, the info on the site is still around, just spread throughout hte new site and games
[22:27] <@Hunterj> HiQu: Do you have the case for R&C 3 near you?
[22:27] <@HiQu> yes
[22:28] <Tigernose> It had an alternate site as well
[22:28] <Tigernose> I do
[22:28] <@Hunterj> Ok, try the url's on the back
[22:28] <@Hunterj> I don't have UYA near me, the rest I tried
[22:28] <@HiQu> ok
[22:28] <Tigernose> www.ratchetandclank3.com
[22:29] <Tigernose> Its down
[22:29] <@HiQu> Yeah.
[22:29] <@Hunterj> If someone has Going Commando rather than than Ratchet & Clank 2 they could try the url on tha back
[22:29] <Tigernose> Hunterj: Do you remember the interface of the GC site
[22:29] <@Hunterj> Yeah
[22:30] <Tigernose> How was it?
[22:30] <@Hunterj> I agree the info being spread throughout games etc isn't as fun or easy
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[22:30] <@Hunterj> It was a hanger? Or something like that.
[22:30] <@Hunterj> Dappo. Welcome.
[22:30] <Tigernose> Was it like the DL site, or was it links in a horizontal way.
[22:30] <Tigernose> Who has GC with them now?
[22:30] <@Hunterj> Horizontal
[22:31] <Tigernose> Like pics which were links
[22:31] <@HiQu> Why do you need to know?
[22:31] <Tigernose> And the theme was bluey
[22:31] <@Hunterj> I suggest we take the info from R&C gadgets.com and Deadlocked site ASAP, even if someone copys it into word or something.
[22:31] <@Hunterj> Yes
[22:31] <Dappo> Hi guys
[22:31] <@HiQu> Hi
[22:31] <@Hunterj> Dappo: Do you ahve a wikia user name?
[22:31] <Tigernose> HiQu: I want to know if it was the same site or an alternate site by Isomniac
[22:32] <Dappo> No =[ I don't have a wikia account
[22:32] <@Hunterj> OK
[22:32] <@Hunterj> Have you edit the R&C wiki?
[22:32] <@HiQu> What site?
[22:33] <@Hunterj> I suggest we take the info from R&C gadgets.com and Deadlocked site ASAP, even if someone copys it into word or something. As a reference. Maybe tigernose as he started this topic. :P
[22:33] <Tigernose> HiQu: GC site, it was fantastic but I seriously only vaguely remember
[22:33] <@HiQu> ok
[22:33] <Tigernose> Hunterj:Uh what
[22:34] <@Hunterj> You take the info from the deadlocked and ratchet&clankgadgets site.
[22:34] <@Hunterj> And store it in word, notepad etc
[22:34] <@Hunterj> So we have it if they take them down
[22:34] <Dappo> Anyone played quest for Booty?
[22:34] <@Hunterj> Yes
[22:34] <@Hunterj> Dappo: We're having an IRC meeting right now, it's nearly over.
[22:34] <Tigernose> Hunterj: U joking
[22:34] <@Hunterj> Nope
[22:34] <@Hunterj> Only relevant stuff.
[22:34] <Dappo> Is it better than TOF
[22:34] <Dappo> *TOD
[22:35] <Tigernose> lol, me?
[22:35] <@HiQu> Dappo: After the meeting, please
[22:35] <@Hunterj> Dappo: We'll only be about 2 mins.
[22:35] <@Hunterj> Tigernose: yes.
[22:35] <@Hunterj> :)
[22:35] <Tigernose> Get an  American to do it - its 10pm
[22:35] <Dappo> Okay Sorry.
[22:35] <Tigernose> sry some lag
[22:35] <@HiQu> not now.
[22:35] <@HiQu> np
[22:35] <Tigernose> lol
[22:35] <Tigernose> afterwards?
[22:36] <@Hunterj> Well, over the next few days
[22:36] <@Hunterj> Dappo: No problem.
[22:36] <Tigernose> I wouldn't be the ideal person. Lets say - my internet connection isn't exactly top notch, and I can only go on today properly in the next week
[22:36] <@Hunterj> www.ratchet-deadlocked.com/
[22:36] <@Hunterj> OK.
[22:36] <@Hunterj> Don't worry then
[22:36] <@Hunterj> LethalReflex: Think you could do us a favor?
[22:37] <Tigernose> I dunno, i'll try but i wouldnt be ideal
[22:37] <@Hunterj> www.ratchet&clankgadgets.com  and  www.ratchet-gladiator.com  -  maybe you could copy some useful info, pictures ino word for us, as a reference in case they take the sites down?
[22:38] <Tigernose> for one - they won't take down the first one and the latter one has a lot of valuable info
[22:38] <Tigernose> Life is so harder now that the sites were taken down!
[22:38] <@HiQu> A tip: Better use Print Screen to take the info.
[22:38] <@Hunterj> I think we should have articles on each of the websites
[22:38] <@Hunterj> Yes
[22:40] <Tigernose> We finished then?
[22:40] <Tigernose> Any late minute enquires?
[22:40] <@Hunterj> http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/edubuccaneer/ratchet_cover.jpg
[22:40] <@Hunterj> Anyone have that version of R&C?
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[22:40] <@Hunterj> The American one?
[22:41] <Tigernose> no
[22:41] <Tigernose> I have the Platinum 
[22:41] <@Hunterj> OK
[22:41] <@Hunterj> never mind.
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