# DrNefarious

## aka orangy1299

9,969 Edits since joining this wiki
July 8, 2011
• I live in Nefarious Space Station
• My occupation is Lord of the Universe
• I am Male

Welcome to our wiki, and thank you for your edit to the PlayStation Move Heroes page! There's a lot to do around here, so I hope you'll stay with us and make many more improvements.

Recent changes is a great first stop, because you can see what other people are editing right this minute, and where you can help.
Questions? You can ask on the "discussion" page associated with each article, or post a message on my talk page!
Need help? The Community Portal has an outline of the site, and pages to help you learn how to edit. You should read the manual of style before editing.

I'm really happy to have you here, and look forward to working with you!

-- Jxtreme (Talk) 2011-07-08T06:41:03
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## Merging planet and location articles

This might have been a pretty bad move. Now if the location and planet pages were small with little room for expansion, this would be a good idea. But if either page has enough content to stand on itself then it might be better to keep them apart. Not to mention throwing them together haphazardly isn't a good idea in general, now instead of 20 small but crappy pages we have 10 larger pages that are an utter mess. If you do merge stuff at least take the time to do it right (or better yet, discuss this sort of stuff). --Light Daxter - Talk 22:37, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

For the record, I necessarily don't agree with LD on this one, I personally think a planet and location page merge is ideal for a few reasons.-- Technobliterator TC 23:23, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

I completely see the point in merging the smaller planet articles if they aren't otherwise featured much beyond the existing location or don't have a lot of room for expansion after properly fleshing out a page and finding it inadequate. But I find that deciding on merging some and not merging others only serves to create more confusion in the long run. Because when do you or do you not merge? It's usually best to decide on this after writing a page and deciding it is too small instead of doing at right now, with the current state of the wiki.

Either way, I improvised a game plan of how to start work most efficiently, instead of picking one category and editing things randomly. It'd be best if I laid this out in an IRC chat though. --Light Daxter - Talk 16:36, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't mean that the wiki can't use a second administrator, not mention a handful of edits doesn't mean much if he genuinely intends to contribute. --Light Daxter - Talk 16:31, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

I'm backpedaling pretty hard here, the initial idea was that the wiki was abandoned and that new folks could go and pick it up, but with this new surge of active editors, including some old ones, I won't be needed anymore (not to mention I have no intentions of working with those who led the wiki down the current road). I'll throw my vote around on your administrator request as I think you can still get those rights. I suggest asking Tigernose to see if he can get bureaucratorship and appoint you as admin or simply message the new (returned) editors to vote in on the matter as well, if Tigernose doesn't reply then just hope you get enough approvals and take that to the adoption site. --Light Daxter - Talk 16:47, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I’ve given you admin and bureaucrat rights on this wikia as you requested. You now have the tools you need to clean up, customize and maintain the wikia.

Check out your Admin Dashboard, which can by found by clicking "Admin" on the bottom toolbar -- it has links to all your new tools. Please let me know if you have any questions, and good luck with your new (old) wikia! -- Wendy (talk 04:18, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Well that was easier than I thought, good luck Dr Nef and if you need anything just ask. --Light Daxter - Talk 10:25, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Congrats, DrNefarious! You'll be great, you are definitely willing to help this place and qualified for the job! Per LD, if you need any help or advice, just ask.-- Technobliterator TC 12:24, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

## Ice planet deletion disagreement

I noted that you have just deleted a page of an unknown planet. Since it is a seperate part of a game about an unknown planet (we aren't 100% if that is Siberius), why should it be merged in another article?

Plasmo$\surd$ (t@lk) 15:18, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

• Well, as there has been a discussion about the page, they might knew more than me, so I might be wrong and the page did have to be deleted. But as long as I know, it shouldn't be deleted. I am not sure; if you agree, you can undelete it.

Plasmo$\surd$ (t@lk) 15:46, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

• Ok, I can explain why (if you notice, I had done an edit that it might be Grelbin).

Plasmo$\surd$ (t@lk) 15:52, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

## Impostor

Some user named User:Dr.NefariousAdmin is pretending to be you. --Light Daxter - Talk 15:17, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

## A mere misunderstanding

Although I do not appreciate the way my error was brought into light, nor my characterization as an impostor, I do aknowledge it. It is not my intention to mimic anyone. I'm merely an admin of a certain Dr. Nefarious page on facebook and thought it would be a fitting name for my acount. I hope no quarrel will be brought between us and I'm more than glad to change my acount's name, if it creates true commotion. I do hope you can give me some tips on how to do it, though. I've spent the last fifteen minutes trying to find out by myself and had no luck up until now. Unsigned comment at {{{2}}} by JB Dr. Nefarious1996 (talk • contribs).

It seemed rather suspicious as the user; DrNefarious only received his administrator rights yesterday you see. --Light Daxter - Talk 15:53, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Oh and you need; http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact/rename-account --Light Daxter - Talk 15:54, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

## Trophies

I tried to talk to the forum for trophies to ask to start earning trophies, but I didn't get any reply. Could you help me? Plasmo$\surd$ (t@lk) 16:57, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

• I think I have done the bronze editor and bronze uploader (100 edits and a sourced and licensed upload).--Plasmo$\surd$ (t@lk) 10:10, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
• Thank you!--Plasmo$\surd$ (t@lk) 09:45, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

## Notability

Hi there, DrNef, nice work you've been doing on the wiki so far! I just wanted to point you to Forum:Notability, to see if you had any comments on it. It was an old forum started by Hunterj back in the day, but I think it could be revised to create a project page/policy for the wiki here. If you need an idea, Project:Notability on Jak Wiki is what I had in mind here, but probably modified to fit R&C wiki needs. Was hoping I could get your thoughts on this. Thanks!-- Technobliterator TC 16:31, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

## Bureaucrate

My input is put. Done and done! --Fullmedalshlong0307 (talk) 16:52, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for the late reply. Just wanted to say thanks for taking over the responsibilities. I'm not really able to contribute significantly at the moment but am still just about around... I'm glad there is someone who can keep a closer eye on the wiki, particularly with the upcoming new game and film. If there's anything you need help with at all please let me know and I'll try to reply soon, but unfortunately my time is very limited at the moment. I'm confident you'll help take the wiki forward alongside active editors. It's particularly great to see some older discussions re-opened, separately I might get my bot working on typos etc. that's at least something I can do for now! Many thanks, HunterjHunterj's Resort 20:43, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

## IRC Discussion

Hi there,

Us on the J&D wiki are interested in helping you guys out, now that one of our admins is back. We were wondering if you were interested in an IRC discussion sometime where we chat about a few things we would like to do around here when we move in? If not, we can open a forum or something where we outline the changes we want to make and involve you (though we might end up doing that any for visibility purposes :p). If you let me know whether you're interested/what times you're free, we can start whenever. Presumably beginning with templates/categories or something. Thanks! ^.^-- Technobliterator TC 21:23, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

I'd say that an IRC discussion would likely be miles easier to get everything discussed in a swift fashion so that we can all get on the same page - saves the delay in between replies. I'm almost always on there, btw, you can probably find me any time you log on (though I'll be away most of tomorrow). However, creating a forum is probably also a good idea, considering I'd probably end up making one anyway. :P Your choice.-- Technobliterator TC 23:18, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
I have to say I partially agree with Doc. I've always liked on-wiki discussion over chat rooms, for visibility and organizational purposes. I understand the point about swift replies and efficiency and such, but it works well on Wikipedia and it makes it to where everyone's points are fully articulate/completed, documented, and it also makes it to where disputes/flame wars or useless off-topic comments are less-likely to happen. In my experience I've also noticed that debates/conversations are generally shorter. I agree we can/should use chat rooms behind the scenes for petty stuff or really major disagreements (not that I anticipate any such things), but for major proposals I say we stick to forums/talk pages. —Jak Himself (talk · contributions) 23:24, June 23, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I understand. I'll gladly start a forum sometime soon, but if you'll be busy over the weeks, that's fine too. My plan is to begin work here more often once I'm satisfied with what I'm doing on another wiki. So I'll be more than happy to begin a forum as soon as that day occurs (could be a week or two?), or you can bug me to start one sooner if you find yourself with more free time before then. Thanks!-- Technobliterator TC 20:39, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

## All Content from the original games

Yes, there will be a previous weapons, gadgets, skins, enemies and bosses from the original series.

Cut-content are listed in bold.

### Enemies & Bosses:

#### Bosses:

So that is all. Thank you. --Thedarkpyrano (talk) 13:58, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Hello it seems to me that you have already done a tour of Ratchet Wikia battle to put last levels

Ben they launch a subject to give argument why they should be changed.

If you want to help us of course :)

## "Reboot"

Hey, DrNefarious! How are you doing? Didn't know you've became an administrator... congratz! :-)

I'm writing to get some things straight with your last edits xD Do you have a proper source stating that this new R&C game is, indeed, a completely reboot of the series?  As far I'm afraid of, they haven't mentioned such thing... the game will be just a remake of the first game with new elements, like weapons and stuff, and improved graphics. Torta de Limão (talk) 18:45, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Right, but there're no actual sources for that statement; there're no official sources that call it a "reboot". I don't think it would be appropriate to keep this way, even if it's just a placeholder, because, from what I've seen on those years, sourced information is pratically a must here. Also, we don't know if there will be another game after this PS4 one; so, it's all unsure and opened to speculation. It could, for example, be just a standalone game that serves as an homenage to the first.

I think I have an idea that would work well for this moment, but, as a wiki, it needs approval: my idea is to keep the Movie in the section Other (or Other Media) and the PS4 game next to the original R&C (as a subsection). Of course, we could edit it later, if more things are unfolded. Torta de Limão (talk) 19:03, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

I just think it's better to let go the term "reboot", as the game itself is not considered so; it's considered a remake. Torta de Limão (talk) 22:53, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

May I ask you, kindly, that we review this new idea you and other users had when I was away from here? It's that... it just doesn't make too much sense for me... we don't know if there will be, in fact, a new R&C series. The only clear thing is that the game will be a remake of Ratchet & Clank. We should first wait for more information to show up before going out and putting merely speculative information in a lot of pages. Torta de Limão (talk) 22:55, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

The movie and the game are basically the same thing. It's not two different entries to this "new series"; one is an adaptation of another. That's why I say this doesn't make much sense, at all. We should just consider it as a "remake". Torta de Limão (talk) 22:54, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

## Block: "Thedarkpyrano"

I forgot something: I don't think you should have blocked the user right away for his last edits. I mean, you could've used the warning template before the actual block so the user would be aware to refrain for doing that again. Torta de Limão (talk) 19:13, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, ok then! Torta de Limão (talk) 22:51, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

## Portable Infoboxes

We’re reaching out to a few of our top communities, hoping to get you on board with the migration to the new infobox markup. And we have tools to help!

Why we’re doing this

Simply put: Most current infobox structure translates very poorly to mobile experiences, and indeed any device that doesn’t use desktop-style displays. On desktops and laptops, they often look amazing. The problem is that Wikia’s traffic is trending mobile.

There is an important graph from our forum post about infoboxes a couple weeks back, and I want to share it here as well:

Mobile is the future. Not just for Wikia, but for the web as a whole. Take a look at the recent trends and future growth predictions for mobile traffic - it's staggering.

We partnered with the Wikia community to create this new markup to make sure that your hard work can be displayed on mobile devices (as well as any future technologies) easily and without any new coding conventions. It’ll take some effort up front, to be sure, but we’re here to help, and the work you put in now will pay for itself tenfold in the future.

Tools we’ve designed to ease the process

We’ve enabled two new features on your community. One is a tool for migrating the “old” infobox code to the new markup. It identifies templates on your wikia that look like infobox templates and places a box on the right rail of the template page. When you click the “Generate draft markup” button in this box, it opens a new tab containing a draft of your infobox using the new markup.

The second is a new feature on Special:Insights that will highlight which infoboxes on your wikia have not been migrated to the new infobox markup. It’s fairly intuitive - you can click on the infobox title link itself to see the old markup, or simply click the “Convert!” button on the right, which performs the same action as the “Generate draft markup” button.

This is our help page for the new markup. Please let me know if you have any questions.

X-ray Delta One @ 18:00, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

## Gaming footers

Hi, DrNefarious!

I was wondering if you had any input on this site being included in the new gaming footers? We'd love to see the Ratchet and Clank community included!

Best regards,

Raylan13 (talk) 16:55, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Consider this site listed and approved - thanks! Raylan13 (talk) 17:31, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

## Italian wiki

Hi. When Italian users are on this site, a message appears at the top of every page: "Ratchet & Clank wiki is also available in Italian". And then, there is the link for enter in a little and very bad wiki. Can you correct that link? The true Ratchet & Clank italian wiki is this: http://it.ratcheteclank.wikia.com/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank_Italia_Wiki. Because the wiki you put in the link is extremely poor in every sense. Thank you for the collaboration.

No problem. But first I wanna see the true link

Greetings I felt it was meaningful to mention the Rynocirator's power seeing as it is hated on yet very strong. I'm still a bit new here but i'm sure i'll be good.

## List of gadgets page mistake

• Hi! All the edditters of the wiki must help to edditted the page "List of gadgets". Sir Dr. Nefarious please look into it RcAlTaCnHkET (talk) 10:42, November 25, 2015 (UTC)RcAlTaCnHkET

## Re: Other side stories and events section

I never got the real answer about them being non canon, although I was confirmed they were spin-offs, directly from an e-mail sent by Insomniac Games. But, nevermind, no problem. It's not the same thing and this issue is yet to be solved. I'm just curious about how we can confirm those "ambiguously canon events" take place after x game, as we have no real information to cover that.

But, overall, I realized you haven't seen all my changes on the page; a particularly section, named "Powers, abilities and weaponry", was poorly written and did not comply with the manual of style we use in this Wiki. What people have to keep in mind is that this is a game. If Ratchet is a "professional sniper, vehicle expert" that can "dodge most of enemy's attacks", that is completely up to the player. It's very relative.

I took some time editing that section in belief of improving the article. I am going to revert the edits again, but only on that said section, ok? Torta de Limão (talk) 15:53, December 6, 2015 (UTC)

## Years

Whether we should take those dates from the R&C 1 magazines or not it's still ambigual. Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando, for instance, takes place in a different galaxy that does not necessarily need to have the same calendar. Basically, we could only state those years for Solana (although I still don't agree with this, as we don't know precisely how the calendar works as it relates to other games in the series). Torta de Limão (talk) 09:37, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

• We know the year from Ratchet and Clank's point of view - even if it is a different galaxy it is still that year. It's from an Insomniac Games canon source, so it's fine to add.Doc Nef (talk) 13:06, January 30, 2016 (UTC)
• I know, but that's only sourced for that particular galaxy. Sorry if I am being a bit boring to discuss some things with you xD However, I was teached that the content put in this Wiki needs to, preferably, have a source. What we are doing is estimating something we are not entirely sure about. I don't agree with that. Torta de Limão (talk) 14:09, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
• Well, how about on the Going Commando page we put "It takes place in the year 5355 going by the Solana Galaxy's year system". I'm sorry if I come off not wanting to discuss things, it's just that there's a lot of work to do on this wiki and I don't really like being interupted from moving on to the next thing that needs fixing/adding.Doc Nef (talk) 15:15, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

## Request for administrator or content moderator rights

Hello, DrNefarious. I would like to request for administrator or content moderator rights.

I have thoroughly read the administrators page and the other, corresponding pages.

I have also read the request for user rights page, but I find it quite confusing. It only states the requirements for voting and being a nominee. Does another user have to nominate me before I can be a nominee? It seems like that is the case. I do not think that any user will nominate me, and I would like to make the Ratchet & Clank wiki a better place as soon as possible by fixing files and articles.

My apologies for not quite understanding, but it looks like there has not been a voting taking place since 2009.

Anyway, you seem to be the most active administrator at the moment, so I will ask you here on your talk page.

I know I have not been on this wiki for a long time. In fact, I joined in late April, this year.

I have, however, created and/or edited pages every day since I joined, except for three days after I joined.

I would like to be an administrator/sysop or a content moderator, because I have seen many image files with messy or misleading names, images that need replacing but I cannot replace, article names that are incorrect but I cannot edit because there is another (redirect) page (including those with an apostrophe that I changed which I must change back but cannot), and articles that need to be deleted. I would like to make the Ratchet & Clank wiki a better place by fixing these articles and images, but I currently do not have the required permissions to do so, so I cannot do anything about it. I am waiting to fix broken pages where the title is incorrect, but I cannot without permission.

I would like this wiki to be as good as it can be, as I really like this wiki and the games too.

I am active every day and edit this wiki every day. I am a big fan of the Ratchet & Clank series, and I have played almost every game in the series, so I know a lot about the games, which is why I have such a big interest in this wiki.

Like I said, I have not been on the Ratchet & Clank wiki for a long time, but I have been on Wikia since 2012, so I have quite a lot of experience with Wikia.

I have created several pages, including templates, and have edited a lot of pages. I have made over 6,699 edits since I joined this wiki.

I have never vandalized a page on any wiki, nor am I planning to.

Thank you for reading my request. Cheers, PapiDimmi (talk) 21:18, May 16, 2016 (UTC).

• The way it used to work is that a user would be nominated, and then voted for - which would decide whether or not they would become a sysop. However we currently are lacking in admins and even regular users so I may make an exception and promote you to admin without going through the regular procedure, since you seem sincere and are making good edits. I'll let you know in the near future if I've decided to make you an admin.--Doc Nef (talk) 03:53, May 18, 2016 (UTC)
• Alright. Thank you for considering my request. I would be happy to further help the Ratchet & Clank wiki and put my permissions to good use.
PapíDimmi (talk) 03:56, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

## Spam article found

This page, which is of such a vulgar language is clearly a spam. Please, delete it. c0ητr165 Pl@smo+@!κ 21:05, May 17, 2016 (UTC)

In fact, all three articles in this category should be deleted immediately but have stayed up much longer than they should have.
PapíDimmi (talk) 21:07, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
I agree. However, media in this category should not be deleted immediately in my opinion. Anyway, there are no active admins in general. c0ητr165 Pl@smo+@!κ 21:14, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
All three pages should be deleted. The one you linked is clearly spam and vandalism, and the others are not so bad. However, the other two pages contain misinformation without any sources, and misinformation should not be on the wiki.
Also, about the administrators, DrNefarious is the most active administrator, and he has not contributed to the wiki in a week. However, that is not too long, and nobody expects the administators to be contributing every day. Hopefully an administrator, such as DrNefarious, will log on in the near future.
PapíDimmi (talk) 21:16, May 17, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, was taking a break. I'll delete the pages.--Doc Nef (talk) 03:50, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

No need to apologize. Thanks for deleting the pages.
PapíDimmi (talk) 03:51, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

## Don Wonderstar

I do not think that we should have one page named “Skid’s agent” and another named “Don Wonderstar” for the re-imagined version of him.

Both should be named the same but one should be a subpage.

Original: Don Wonderstar
Re-imagined: Don Wonderstar/Re-imagined

This way, it becomes less confusing. Besides, he is named “Don Wonderstar” in both games, but his name was only revealed in the re-imagining.

What is your opinion on this?

By the way, I cannot rename the original page to Don Wonderstar because it is already a redirect page.
PapíDimmi (talk) 04:24, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

In the original series he was only ever called "Skid's agent" (so that's his primary name for his "original" series self), while the Don Wonderstar name is the primary name used for his re-imagined self. That's why in this case we go:

• Original: Skid's agent (with Don Wonderstar/Original as a redirect)
• Re-imagined: Don Wonderstar (with Skid's agent/Re-imagined as a redirect)

The title for Skid's agent still appears as "Don Wonderstar" because that's his real name, but fans who are only familiar with the original games will still search for him as "Skid's agent", while new fans will want to see the re-imagined version, and will serach Don Wonderstar. That's why we do the naming scheme like this. Doc Nef (talk) 04:31, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

I unfortunately do not agree with this, because if people search or go to the page “Skid’s agent,” they get redirected to the original. “Don Wonderstar” can redirect to the re-imagined one. It gets confusing when we do not label them. Besides, if people are confused, they can look on the tabs on top which specify whether the page is about the re-imagined game or the original game. They can also just look in the “Appearances” section. I think that all pages should be seperated with “Name” and “Name/Re-imagined,” not just the ones that do not get a new name in the re-imagined. It just gets messy that way. Skid’s agent is both called “Skid’s agent” and “Don Wonderstar” in the re-imagined game. I actually do not remember him being called by his full name in the re-imagined game. Was it in the credits? Either way, I doubt that many people will search for him in specific. I think that they will just search for “Skid’s agent.” This is the same as I feel with Drek/Alonzo Drek. Most articles do not have alternate names in the re-imagined game; I think that all articles should follow the same “Name” and “Name/Re-imagined” rule. It becomes more organized that way. We just use the DISPLAYTITLE magic word to edit the appearance of the title.

Both the original and re-imagined Skid’s agent pages are named “Don Wonderstar” now, because the original uses DISPLAYTITLE. That is confusing. Anyway, Don Wonderstar is his full name, regardless of game. The re-imagined takes place the same time and places as the original game anyway, and it is the same person.
PapíDimmi (talk) 04:34, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about this, and it's not messy as long as nobody messes up the redirects when creating the pages. You might be right that it'll look better, I'll do some testing and get back to you later. Also there's no need to change the apostrophes on pages.--Doc Nef (talk) 04:42, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

I think that the original page should be titled Don Wonderstar (since it is his full name), but DISPLAYTITLE should be used to change it to “Skid’s agent,” perhaps. And the re-imagined could be Don Wonderstar/Re-imagined and have the name changed to “Don Wonderstar” also using DISPLAYTITLE.
I do not think that we should have exceptions for those rules just because the character’s real name was revealed in the reboot. It is a reboot after all, which means that it is the same character in the same timeline, in the same place. It is better to have one page about the original character, and a subpage about the re-imagined character. They are the same character, and having two pages both about the same character but one has one name for the character and the other has another name for the character, it becomes unclear as to whether the article is about the original or re-imagined character, and it becomes less organized.
About the apostrophes, I have changed straight apostrophes to curly apostrophes and straight quotation marks to curly quotation marks because those are the proper punctuation marks, and they are more professional, especially for a wiki which intends to be professional. The curly marks will be found in more professional and good typography. I have changed to the proper marks on many pages, but if you do want to discuss, we can do so. My apologies for not starting a discussion about the subject earlier.
PapíDimmi (talk) 04:48, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

It's okay, but if your going to make a big change in a wikia community you must always start a discussion beforehand and be patient. Apostrophes may not seem like a big change, but it can be. It's best not to change the apostrophes, as while professionalism is important on wiki, ease of use is even more important. For example, changing the apostrophes would be a pain for the likes of me, since my keyboard does not have the curly apostrophe type, only the straight one.--Doc Nef (talk) 04:59, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

I agree; I should have discussed the matter before I took action on changing the punctuation marks. However, I was unfamiliar with the Ratchet & Clank wiki’s users. Although I know to discuss matters like this in the future now. It is not a difficult task for me to change the punctuation marks, and I could on my own, although, if there is a disagreement, I sincerely apologize and will revert changes that I have made and stop changing the marks.
What are your thoughts on the matter of Don Wonderstar? Like I said, I do not think that it is a smart idea to have the name which was revealed in the re-imagined game be the lone title as opposed to “Don Wonderstar/Re-imagined”—or even “Skid’s agent/Re-imagined.” Either way, I think it is best if the re-imagined name is a subpage for the original and has “/Re-imagined” in the title but is changed with the DISPLAYTITLE magic word template like all of the other re-imagined pages. We should always be consistent on a wiki. I am unsure as to whether or not we will come to an agreement on this matter, although I would like further discussion.
PapíDimmi (talk) 05:05, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

It would be best to change to apostrophes back. I'm starting to think you might be right about the Don Wonderstar thing. I need to go off wiki for a little while though cause I have some stuff to do. I'll be on again later today (or tomorrow) though and tell you what I've decided on the matter.--Doc Nef (talk) 05:10, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

The reason as to why I wanted the apostrophes and quotation marks (also called “smart quotes”) to be curly is because they are considered more professional, or formal if you will, because they symbolize the proper use of punctuation as opposed to the straight quotation marks which are dubbed “dumb quotes.” I can understand how the curly quotation marks can be less of ease than the straight ones, as your keyboard may not have such keys available, like you said, but the quotation marks are more appealing and common in good typography such as The New York Times.
Technically, the straight quotation marks (' and ") are incorrect but have been accepted as a standard. I have changed the marks on every page I have come across. I do agree that it was faulty of me to not discuss the matter beforehand, and I, again, apologize for that. I do not intend to put my opinion above anyone else’s, and I would like to discuss the matter further until we come to a reasonable agreement. As I am active on the wiki daily, others have no worry, because I could change the marks myself, as I have done since I joined. Alternatively we could use a bot, although that is not essential. Again, my apologies for not discussing the matter. I have started to discuss any matter before taking action, and I will do so any time in the future when necessary. Since there is an apparent disagreement, I could revert all of the quotation mark edits which I have made, although it would be arduous.
I will be looking forward to speak to you anew when you return, and I hope that we can come to an agreement. Cheers, PapíDimmi 05:20, May 18, 2016 (UTC).
I just wanted to discuss something which you said which I missed earlier.
“In the original series he was only ever called ‘Skid’s agent’ (so that’s his primary name for his ‘original’ series self), while the Don Wonderstar name is the primary name used for his re-imagined self.”
This is not true, as Don Wonderstar was never referred to by name in the re-imagined game. At least I cannot remember anybody saying “Don Wonderstar” in the re-imagined game, but I might be wrong. I do think that he was only referred to as “Skid’s agent” in the re-imagined game as well as the original game, though.
PapíDimmi (talk) 06:24, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

No need to keep apologizing for the error, but ease of use is the most important factor here so we will need the apostrophes to be reverted back to the previous ones. In the re-imagined game Skid's agent calls himself Don Wonderstar when you encounter him and Skidd "Just tell em Don Wonderstar sent ya", and also the description of his holo-card says that is his real name. I've decided that your right, we should have them labeled the way you said - and then we can just use the DISPLAYTITLE magic word to title the page how we want, so we'll have Don Wonderstar and Don Wonderstar/Re-imagined.--Doc Nef (talk) 08:09, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

I will stop reverting the straight apostrophes to the smart ones, and I will revert all curly quotation marks to the straight quotation marks, which I have now started doing. I personally prefer the curly quotation marks as they are more proper and look better, and they also do not need the nowiki formatting to show possession with an italic or bold word; however I do understand that ease of use is an important factor, and I do not want to be in the way of that at any degree.
I had forgotten that he called himself “Don Wonderstar.” Although even though he did, there is no reason to remove the “/Re-imagined” from the title. Anyway, it is good that that matter is now settled. If you would like to keep the theme which we discussed, you should rename Skid's agent to “Don Wonderstar,” whilst Don Wonderstar/Re-imagined remains the same. I cannot do so, because I do not have the required permissions, for there already is a page—a redirect page—titled “Don Wonderstar.”
Cheers, PapíDimmi 10:19, May 18, 2016 (UTC).

## Missions category (suggestion)

Currently there is sixteen Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando mission articles, with no categories. Missions are in almost every Ratchet & Clank game and multiple missions appear in one level/planet. Should a missions category be made? --Tumpp1357 (talk) 17:58, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

• Maybe, or we could merge the missions with their planet by putting them on a "list of missions" section.--Doc Nef (talk) 04:50, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

## Categories on redirect pages

I have seen several redirect pages with categories, although is really it necessary for redirect pages to have categories? What do you think?
PapíDimmi (talk) 06:37, May 21, 2016 (UTC)